RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
November 28, 2016 at 10:03 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2016 at 10:04 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 28, 2016 at 9:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The difference between saying God has always been here and saying something in nature has always been here is that God is supernatural. That's the whole point of God - a being that is beyond our natural world and its laws. The laws of nature, as far as we know, state that everything has a beginning. Just as there is no "proof" of God, neither is there "proof" that anything in nature can be infinite, having no beginning. Either way you're taking somewhat of a leap of faith by making either claim.
First of all, simply stating that 'god' has always existed, adds nothing. It has no explanatory power, and creates more questions than it answers.
What sort of realm did your god exist in before he created the universe?
If existence did not exist, what was your god acting on when he created the universe? Causation requires time and space. What time and space existed for your god to cause something to exist?
What sort of leap am I taking by positing that existence always existed?
Sorry, but your tu quoque fallacy is unconvincing. Neither is your argumentum ad ignorantiam.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.