(November 29, 2016 at 8:06 am)Little Rik Wrote: Actually I proceed on what make sense and what does not or what is working and what is not.Yeah, I get the impression that you aren't much of a skeptic. And if life teaches us anything, it's that going by what 'makes sense' can fool us. Your wacky views on spirituality are evidence of that.
I try my best not to keep skepticism inside my mind for very long.
Quote:In the beginning when I started talking about NDEs in this forum I did mention different NDEs studies but several people here said that I really should look at DR. Parnia work because he is the one who studied most these NDEs therefore he is the expert.I wasn't among those telling you to check out Dr Parnia, and I doubt anyone told you to only use one source for your information. As for "you guys," atheists are not a monolithic block exactly because we aren't required to follow dogmatic belief systems. So it should not surprise you that we don't all make up our minds on something-- that's religion.
Now you contradict your fellow atheists saying that I really should look elsewhere.
For Christ'sake Ton can't you guys make up your mind on something?
Quote:1) NDEs are surely indicative of an other plane of existence.No, they're not. I repeat-- you cannot make up shit like this and back it with 'what makes sense' when you don't know what you are talking about.
Quote:2) You guys always talk about logicWhat you're doing has nothing in common with logic. You are making a claim and making up an explanation out of thin air because it supports the dogma you want to believe. That isn't logic. It's self-delusion.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould