(November 29, 2016 at 12:56 pm)Tonus Wrote:(November 29, 2016 at 9:08 am)Little Rik Wrote: When you take.......what make sense plus what it works.......and all that works then you can't go wrongYour problem is that you pretend that things work when they don't. Self-delusion does not lead to truth.
So you can read my mind and know for sure that yoga does not give me peace of mind?
I got a tip for you Ton.
Go in the market places, set up a stall and read people mind for a fee.
You could become rich mate.
You never thought about it Ton, did you?
Quote:Even religions are very very divided on everything.
Same same as atheism.
Quote:Then why are you confused that not all atheists would agree on something? This is exactly what I pointed out before-- you will change your story on a dime for the sake of convenience, even if it contradicts your previous point. You're literally just making it up as you go along.
That is very silly Ton.
You are the one who came up with the story that only religious people
act like a monolithic block because they follow dogmatic beliefs.
They may well follow dogmatic beliefs and I believe that they do but these beliefs are not all the same
as you can see in all religions in which there are a myriad of interpretation on the same subject or issue.
According to you atheists do not follow dogmatic beliefs?
What a joke Ton.
Don't atheists keep on saying that the consciousness is a product of the brain and with the physical death is all over?
Oh, Ton, I am so sorry I should have say that only 99% of the atheists believe in these dogma and that my mate Ton doesn't because he represent that 1%.
Will you ever excuse and pardon LR?
Quote:I back up my statements with some logic material.
Quote:No, you don't. You make shit up and pretend that it's real. See above. Your imagination is neither proof nor evidence.
It is real that a brain devoid of oxygen and blood can not possibly create NDEs that is why I follow logic while Ton doesn't.
Quote:You say that a dead brain is not dead
Quote:See? More self-delusion. I never said that a dead brain is not dead. Or did you miss the part where they are called NEAR death experiences? It's called oxygen deprivation and it's a pretty well-understood circumstance.
You should probably stop banging your head on the desk, Rik. The damage is probably irreparable at this point but one can still hope.
Oxygen deprivation......
And the blood deprivation?
Ok, then.
In this case please tell me whether a brain devoid of blood and oxygen is capable of creating clear and sharp visions and experiences such as the NDEs and whether these experiences can be remembered very well after years and years considering that they were created as you say by a brain that was not dead?
Oh maybe not Ton.
Now you will come up with the story that you never said anything like this so what is your idea about the NDEs.
Where they come from?
Is all hallucination?
Is all imagination?
All these thousand people make up the story about the NDEs?
Let us hear your story Ton.