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RE: Were social justice warriors responsible for the election outcome?
November 30, 2016 at 5:23 pm
(November 18, 2016 at 4:30 am)Bob Kelso Wrote:
(November 15, 2016 at 9:53 am)TaraJo Wrote:
I can't help but look at the election results and think, in hindsight, I can't be too surprised.
Since about 2012 or so, the SJW's have been on the rise; the jerks who use progressive sounding, virtuous buzzwords to justify being jerks. Before, they were always on the fringe for everyone to laugh at their absurdity. You can go to Tumblr and find them all over the place and they're increasingly getting more influential on twitter. But lately, they've been getting more noticed, especially on college campuses.
It feels like suicide for the democrats and even for the reasonable republicans. I mean, seriously: white people, like it or not, are the majority here, but in this election cycle, these people turned "white male" into an insult in the name of progressivism. I don't know how they think a democracy works, but you don't win elections by insulting the majority. Not to mention, there's the boy-who-cried-wolf effect: we've gotten so used to bratty college kids calling everything racism that when Trump is saying or doing things that are genuinely racist, we ignore it. Racism is a term that's so over-used that it lost its meaning, opening the doors for legitimate, serious racism.
And the kicker? Hillary focused on them but ignored the rust belt states that used to be the backbone of the democratic party. Yeah, the middle class factory workers in Ohio, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Their jobs are suddenly being outsourced to Asian sweatshops and they aren't exactly trained to work the jobs that are replacing them. Yet, instead of talking about those issues, progressives are dismissing them because they're "white males." Instead of listening to their concerns, their worries, their issues, they're being chastised for not memorizing a 19-year-old's ten sylable gender identity that he just came up with last week. Trump, to his credit, actually showed concern for them, claiming he'll back out of Nafta and bring manufacturing back from China (I don't think he'll actually be able to do either, but at least he's showing concern). You want to flip this election around, have Hillary address labor issues, manufacturing jobs, things like that, and don't just cater to a bunch of spoiled college kids.
Late to the game but I'll reply anyway:
Personally I think the effects that the SJW/Feminist community have had on the election surpasses what most people would think by far. I mean, these fucks are everywhere (all social media, in the streets) literally screaming at people over nonsense more oft than not. The real kicker is that if you don't readily agree with them, or rather "listen and believe", then you're an evil, racist, bigoted, sexist, -insert here-phobe, twat deserving of the worst they have to offer your way. People are only going to take so much of that before they leave the left, or push back from the right.
And let's not forget all the white hate. Ah, that reminds me, a Hail Anita a day keeps the SJW's away:
(November 15, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Kosh Wrote: I'll take a social justice warrior over an ignorant fearful whiny-ass racist. The former will mellow with age while the latter just become more of a despicable human scumbag.
So... you'll have your shit and eat it too? They're one in the same Kosh.
That is your opinion that they are one and the same. From my prospective the latter is an asshole, and the sjw calls them out for being a dirtbag.
In my 50 years on this planet, the "sjw folks" have never given me a second look or made a comment to me. I'm a middle-aged white male. According to the anti-pc crowd, I should be persecuted the minute I leave my house.
If people are tired of being called out when they behave like an asshole... Stop being an asshole..
Political corectnes isn't this vague nebulous hard to understand concept. Treat others as you want to be treated and don't be a jerk. People don't like it when they called out for bad behavior. I love it when they apologize and claim that what we saw isn't the real them. They are just sorry someone noticed.
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