RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 2, 2016 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2016 at 12:05 pm by Ignorant.)
(December 2, 2016 at 10:19 am)Ben Davis Wrote:(December 2, 2016 at 9:01 am)Ignorant Wrote: What do you think about Catholics holding that Mary, a woman, is the closest creature to God?
Yes, Mary. The ultimate rape victim.
Did you miss the part about Gabriel asking for her consent, and Mary giving it?
(December 2, 2016 at 10:35 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(December 2, 2016 at 9:01 am)Ignorant Wrote: What do you think about Catholics holding that Mary, a woman, is the closest creature to God?
Who is a male... That clearly means - the best female is inferior to the best male. [1]
The male created the universe and humanity - even Mary herself. [2] The male sacrificed himself for the sins of humanity. The male will judge humanity and give them everlasting life - again, including Mary herself, who is only venerated, due to male's grace. [3]
The female - is a perfectly obedient recepticle/incubator, who knows how to keep her legs together. Twist it however you like it, but women are inherently inferior according to pretty much every major monotheistic religion. [4]
God without Mary is still God. Mary without god - is just some pr*ck-teasing b*tch.
1) HA! Clearly? "Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance" (Phil 2:7) If that's true, and God humbled himself as lowly as possible (i.e. as a man), couldn't it also be "clear" that God sees MEN as inferior to women?
2) That is not an adequate understanding of Christianity. Jesus's humanity had nothing to do with the creative act. In fact, Jesus's masculine humanity comes ONLY from Mary's humanity. It is a reversal of the Adam and Eve narrative.
Adam (Old Man) => Eve (Old Woman)
Mary (New Woman) => Jesus (New Man)
3) Have you heard of the titles: co-redemtrix and co-mediator of graces? It's not due to Christ's masculinity that he is worshiped and she is venerated. It is due to his DIVINITY. If anything, it explains the massive superiority complex men have had throughout the ages. While men have the same inherent worth and dignity as women, men might simply be inferior when it comes to naturally living well, and even God knew it! If he is going to redeem humanity as the weakest of humans... gotta go with the male version! I had never thought of that before. Thanks!
4) I agree that most every religion has treated women that way in different ways and at different times. Is it inherent to their revealed understanding of humanity? I don't think so.