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Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
(December 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Luckie Wrote:
Quote:Your comment was that women's senior most position in the Church is a flower arranger. Yes, that comment is 100% false. 

Then what is actually the ceiling for women within the Catholic church?

I don't know about "ceiling", as in which of these roles is more important. But they can be Professional Ministers, doctors at Catholic hospitals, teachers at Catholic schools, Music Director for the church, Director of Religious Education, Nuns, etc etc etc. Impossible to list all roles. But they can take on any role for the church with the exception of priests. And as I explained earlier, this isn't because we think women are objects, or somehow inferior, but because we believe that based on Jesus only choosing men as his disciples, that God created that role exclusively for men. In the same way that God created the role of carrying life and giving birth only to women. Only women can give physical life, just as only men can give spiritual life. Not because one is better than the other, and not because either one is an "object."

(December 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Luckie Wrote:
(November 30, 2016 at 5:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Also ironically enough, my aunt's pro life stance, which stemmed from her Catholicism, is what saved my sister when she was in my teenage mom's womb. Because SHE, a woman, was/is not an object or a "thing." But a human being who deserves to stay alive.
Thats funny my mom was forced into an abortion because of her dogmatic parents' beliefs. In any case, I'm an atheist and I'm anti abortion as well. *high fives Catholic Lady

Wow. Really sorry to hear this. Sad

I can't comment on what beliefs your grandparents had that would make them think abortion is acceptable, much less required in any situation, but that's really sad and I'm really sorry you lost your brother/sister to that.
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist? - by Catholic_Lady - December 2, 2016 at 12:36 pm

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