(December 4, 2016 at 9:52 am)Tonus Wrote:(December 4, 2016 at 8:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: Do you really see a big difference among satires, ironies and parodies?I see a big difference among those who are self-aware and those who are not.
Quote:All I try to point out to you was the fact that you should not be too enthusiastic and passionate about physical-material achievements.It's tough not to be passionate about the only progress that we can actually track. The improvements that science and technology have made to our lives are so numerous at this point that there aren't enough gigabytes to list them all. The improvements that your "something else" is responsible for cannot even be quantified by those who believe in it. You'll forgive me if I save my enthusiasm for the stuff that actually works.
Quote:If on the other hand you expect me to elaborate on the point then you better read some topic and information on how the system works and how the blood feed that part of the body and brain called head.I don't need you to explain how the blood brings nutrients to the brain. I need you to explain how that was in any way relevant to the point you were trying to make. This is an example of how you drift from one point to another without addressing them, all the while trying to mock the intelligence of the person you're dealing with. It's funny to watch, in a "look at the drunk guy stumbling onto his face" kind of way, but it doesn't actually provide any useful answers.
Then again, your track record on providing useful answers is so poor that I guess stumbling around like a drunk isn't all that different.
Quote:If you only would have answered my question whether you would call a plumber or an electrician when your toilet is stuck then you would have understood that obviously physical science can not understand what is behind the physical-material aspect.Neither can any other science, including the ones you make up to try and invent a supernatural reality. In fact, it would not surprise me if you idiots can't even come up with a working definition of "what is behind the physical-material aspect." You're all pretty sure it's there, but you can't agree on what it is or how it works or why it's there. You know why? Because you don't have a method of testing and verifying your claims. You will therefore never achieve consensus and never actually do anything useful for the world. Build something that works with your "karma" and we'll finally take your claims seriously. Until then, they're garbage.
Talking about garbage please let me summarize your garbage.
1) It is naive behind any limit to think that nobody create and run the universe.
Logic show that behind any creation there is a mind but what's the point in talking about logic with a fool?
2) Logic once again tell us that despite all new discoveries real progress remain an illusion.
As soon as one problem is solved one more problem pop up in a never ending game of fooling the dreamer.
And the dreamer will keep on being fooled until he-she will give up chasing the illusion when he-she will realize that real progress lie elsewhere.
The fool look outside not realizing that the mine of gold is inside and within.
3) Now the last point Ton.
How do we know that God is real and is within?
By realizing that outside we can only find the way to stay afloat and the real progress does not lie there the wise will automatically look elsewhere.
Drugs can give a tremendous good feeling and that feeling is coming from inside which can not be compared to the feeling that may come from outside.
Yoga is free from drugs but in a way it lead to a build up of deep peace of mind which result in bliss.
Both yoga and drug extract that beautiful feeling from within with the difference that yoga is natural while drugs are masturbating body and brain in a destructive way.
Once you understand where that beautiful feeling come from you also realize that God is within but again
that is something that will only manifest once you sort out the idea that nobody run the universal show.