RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 5, 2016 at 4:55 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2016 at 5:02 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(December 5, 2016 at 4:47 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(December 5, 2016 at 4:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The ends don't justify the means is a pretty fundamental Christian belief. A person may have the good intention of ensuring their kid gets to heaven, but that doesn't take away the fact that killing the innocent is still objective wrong.
I understand that, according to your beliefs, it would be wrong for YOU.
Then, the question becomes, why have children in the first place?
Think about it. You are bringing a 'soul' into existence, with the very real possibility that, during it's 80 year life, it might do something that will get it sent to hell.
Why take the chance at all that this will happen?
(Quick comment on the bolded: this is a way over simplified way of putting it lol, but I'll go with it)
I think it's still worth taking the chance. Especially when it's in our own power as parents to raise them as best we can to be good people.
I mean, I could just as easily ask you the secular version of this question: There is a very real possibility that any person you bring into the world will be a murderer, a thief, a cheat, a rapist, a corrupt politician, etc etc etc.
With that knowledge, why would you take the chance of having a kid?
I imagine an atheist's answer will probably be very similar to mine.
(December 5, 2016 at 4:49 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(December 5, 2016 at 4:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The ends don't justify the means is a pretty fundamental Christian belief. A person may have the good intention of ensuring their kid gets to heaven, but that doesn't take away the fact that killing the innocent is still objective wrong.
How can babies go to heaven in Catholic doctrine? We all know you believe that people are born with original sin and that you think baptism is necessary for salvation. So how can fetus or baby go to heaven since they're not baptized? Are you making up your own version of Christianity there?
I've discussed this in a different thread. Read my responses here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-45905-page-6.html
Particularly post 56.
^Edited because I posted the wrong link lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh