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Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
(December 6, 2016 at 11:16 am)Ben Davis Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 10:16 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I've seen that video here before on a number of occasions, and to me it's just silly. No offense Ben.
We're all entitled to our opinions  Angel

Quote:It's making stereotypes and assumptions about all people of faith.
I'm surprised you see it that way. It's tackling one specific response of theists to atheism, that atheists are rejecting deities. It does a very good job of illustrating that the 'rejection' response is a key indicator that deities are expressions of ego rather than of any supernatural entity. It doesn't make any claim that all theists respond this way neither does it try to put words in theists mouths as 'rejection' claims are commonplace, across many religions, albeit not universal. Where do you see the stereotypes and assumptions?

Quote:I for one, don't care in the least if someone doesn't have the same views on religion/God as I do. Obviously I think it's a good thing if someone does, because I believe it's the truth, but I most certainly don't feel personally offended by it if they don't. Believe what you want lol.
Of course, I agree that people should be free to believe what they want, I just disagree that religious beliefs are a good thing. Maybe if I shared your view, my life would be less stressful  Wink

Quote:So to me, watching this video is like, "Eye roll, these folks are way off and making the assumption that we're all immature, shallow, and stupid. How typical."
I think that might be a bit of you seeing what you want rather than seeing what's there; that sometimes happens as a defense mechanism. Then again, I'm willing to admit that the bias may be at my end. If it is, I'd seek to root it out. What do you think?  Cool

Quote:Ironically enough I've seen more people here who have felt angry that I believe in God than I personally feel towards those who don't.
For me, I don't know about angry, more condescendingly disappointed  Big Grin

But seriously, I hope you understand why it's reasonably common for atheists to feel anger towards religious beliefs (and by association, sometimes those who hold them) and why that isn't common in reverse. I think you've been here long enough to have heard many different explanations.

What I got from the video is this:

Theists feel personally offended when atheists don't agree with them about their religion. Therefore a theist's religion is merely an expression of their own ego. 

^That's what I was objecting to. If that's not what the video is claiming, then I stand corrected.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist? - by Catholic_Lady - December 6, 2016 at 11:21 am

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