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[Little Rik]

First (in the previous post) YOU ask me to explain how God or a supernatural world exist.

No, in the previous post I asked you to explain how blood flowing to the brain was relevant to any of the points you were making.

No Ton.
In the previous post you stated that a supernatural entity is all bull and here below is your statement.


Neither can any other science, including the ones you make up to try and invent a supernatural reality.  In fact, it would not surprise me if you idiots can't even come up with a working definition of "what is behind the physical-material aspect."  You're all pretty sure it's there, but you can't agree on what it is or how it works or why it's there.  You know why?  Because you don't have a method of testing and verifying your claims.  You will therefore never achieve consensus and never actually do anything useful for the world.  Build something that works with your "karma" and we'll finally take your claims seriously.  Until then, they're garbage.

I am not concern at all what other theists believe or say about their beliefs.
I am only concern about my philosophy of life and that works very well.
Why should I reach a consensus with anyone?
People are free to believe in what they like most.
If they are wrong they will have to sort out their problems later on.  

After I give you an explanation about it you now tell me that you are not interested in it.

You didn't give me an explanation for what I asked.  You started preaching old bullshit that we've already discussed before in threads where you showed --as in this one-- that you don't know what you're talking about.

Wrong again Ton.  

As far as you say that a supernatural entity is all bull I will have to say that is not because yoga works and yoga is all about reducing the distance that separate me from such an entity.
By feeling that the separation is reduced day by day I automatically know that this entity is real.  

If you are not interested in such a topic why you ask me in the first place?

Because I wasn't asking you that.  I was asking you something else.  I was also asking it for at least the second time, and with each request you got farther and farther from it.

Wrong again Ton.  

By criticizing my view on a supernatural entity it was obvious that I had to answer your criticism.
Now however you shift the topic on a previous point that I already explained of how the blood to the brain is relevant.

Here is your comment.............I don't need you to explain how the blood brings nutrients to the brain.  I need you to explain how that was in any way relevant to the point you were trying to make.  This is an example of how you drift from one point to another without addressing them, all the while trying to mock the intelligence of the person you're dealing with.  It's funny to watch, in a "look at the drunk guy stumbling onto his face" kind of way, but it doesn't actually provide any useful answers.

Then again, your track record on providing useful answers is so poor that I guess stumbling around like a drunk isn't all that different.

And here my explanation for the second time.
The topic was all about NDEs.
I was saying that a brain devoid of blood and oxygen can not possibly create sharp and clear experiences
that people remember very clearly even after many years.
You on the other hand along with most atheists said that the brain devoid of blood and oxygen can create
such experiences.
Do you remember?  
That is why I mention the blood in order to correct you when in a previous comment you only mention the oxygen.  

1) I put that it is natural that behind any creation there is a mind.
What about the universe Ton?
Nobody create it?

Prove that someone or something created it.  Until you can prove that, you cannot claim that it was created.  See how easy that is to refute?

I am talking about logic Ton.
You on the other hand talk about mental masturbation.
Logic tell us that behind every creation there is a mind.
Your dumbness equal the dumbness of the masses that called Galileo and other scientists fools.
It is bizarre that atheists that always praise science when science and logic contradict you you
expect that science bring to you 100% of evidence on a silver plate.
Logic lead to evidence but if you expect evidence before the logic then you will have to follow the hard way along an unsealed road.  

2) You are very eager to see all those new discoveries in this world but when I did asked you whether
these discoveries lead to real progress you fail to answer.

As I said the last time we debated this point-- you are wrong.  You do not know what you are talking about.  Consider what the world was like in the stone age and what it is like today.  It is quite obvious that we have made so many advancements that we cannot even count them all.  The level of progress is almost immeasurable.  You do not know what you are talking about.  You think that if you make a claim and offer up a poor or stupid example to support it, you have 'proved' something. You are wrong.

Wrong again Ton.   

You don't know what you are talking about.
Progress come when the positive is not affected by the negative.
You tell me one single thing that only bring the positive and I will cover you in 24 carat gold.  

Right now that you are on your computer you don't even realize that the radiations coming from your monitor damage your eyes and your brain.
Nor that by lying on your backside instead of doing exercised you become more and more lazy.
And what about the electricity that you consume?
And the cost of making a computer and disposing it it create more environment damages.
And what about your family?
They see that you care less and less about them as your interest is in the computer.

These Ton are just some of the negative things that go along the positive of being able to communicate
through the computer.
I could knock down every single so called progress but I realize that it would be a waste of time considering that i deal with a dreamer.
Have a good day anyway Ton.