(December 9, 2016 at 9:59 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) By criticizing a supernatural reality you automatically say that is all bull.So this is a case of you deciding on an interpretation that suits you, instead of admitting that your reading comprehension is poor.
Quote:2) There is no problem with reaching a consensus with anyone who practice the same pathSure there is. Ask all of those Buddhists and Hindus to explain what karma is and see how many different answers you get. And the more detail you ask them to provide, the farther and farther apart they will get. Just like any other religion or belief system that relies on mysticism or spirituality.
Quote:3) Let me explained what the feeling of separation is all about.The concept is clear. How you get there is not testable. It cannot be falsified. It cannot be quantified. A person's "journey" through university can be tracked by a number of metrics with varying degrees of accuracy and certainty. Your spiritual journey cannot.
Quote:4) By mentioning that the cause of NDEs is oxygen deprivation to the brain only you were wrong that is why I did correct you by saying that the lack of oxygen is not the only cause.Only because blood brings oxygen to the brain. I'd ask for you to explain what other reason there is, but I know you'll just fire up the WOO WAGON and go on another bumpy ride off of a logical cliff.
Also the lack of blood is important.
Quote:Not only that but by not saying that also the body deprived by the flow of oxygen and blood you pretend that only the brain is involved in the NDE.Not pretend-- this is what research indicates. If you have anything more than wild guesses based on your need to remain in your dogmatic bubble, you are free to do the research and help the world gain more actual knowledge and understanding. I'm going to wager that you'll just hop back into your WOO WAGON
Quote:5) Proving a claim?Yes, proving it. If you intend to hide behind the excuse that it can only be tested spiritually, you run into the problem above-- no consensus because there is no way to test the claim. In other words... you can't prove it. So don't lie to me about how to prove a spiritual claim when you are admitting that it cannot be tested. If you can't prove it then it's nothing but a claim and it's useless.
Quote:6) I did show you how every single thing in this finite universe go hand in hand with the positive and negative.No, you didn't SHOW anything. You made a bunch of claims that we both know you cannot substantiate because we went through this before. You have your own definition of how "the positive and the negative" apply to the progress humanity has made, and you change that definition whenever it suits your point. I know that you don't have a coherent argument against what I said because you had a chance before and you failed, and you're trying to make the very same argument now. It's still a failure. Try something better.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould