(December 9, 2016 at 4:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What debate, you said something like this earlier, I'll tell you again what I told you then. You're making shit up, then retreating from reality when called on it. Your even retreating from your own damned reteating statements. What was that shit about our prosperity earlier? That's not a debate.
You know that it's common to use an opponent's position for effect in debate. If you want to ignore our debt so that we're wealthy, that's fine - but there are consequences to that position. One is that America, building on Europe, has found peace and prosperity. Other countries can see that. Some adopt our ways, with some modifications for their own cultures. Others don't. Personally I don't have much pity for skinned knees when the person refuses to wear knee pads.
Quote:I'm belittling you, for trying to use the specter of your brother, to deflect criticism of your own bigotries.
I'm pointing out an inconvenient truth for you - there are people who have volunteered, at risk of life, to go to the middle east to help out - and yet voted Trump.
Quote:Again, as so often in thread, you're trying to excuse your bigotry by reference to others, particularly pointless in the case of my friends and family, since they're not -closeted- bigots anyway, and since I don't need to project their bigotry onto anyone to find it plenty of places in this country, and right here in thread, from yourself.
Again, you're simplistically crying racism and dismissing complexity.