(December 13, 2016 at 10:11 am)Little Rik Wrote: The point is that progress equal to what you feel inside and what you are able to take with you when you leave the dead body.
That's not how we measure progress. That's a made-up definition of progress that you think supports your beliefs. This is one of the most dishonest approaches that theists take, where they dismiss all of the methods we have of actually learning and knowing and create a "science" that isn't science. Then they can claim anything and support it with anything and demand that their made-up beliefs be tested even though they have forbidden any method that could actually be used to test them.
You're lying when you say things like that. The most charitable description would be that you're deluded, but you've had opportunity after opportunity to put your claims to the test and you cannot bring yourself to do it. You're simply not trying. Your fear of reality will not make your claims true.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
