Are you still grieving? You are not alone.

[Amarok]

This is what the catch-22 is. If your (global you) thought or belief is that 1. gays shouldn't have the same rights, or that 2. police killing black people without consequence is tolerable, or that 3. women and poor people should be deprived of reproductive choice, or that 4. we should round up and deport 11 million people, or that 5. white nationalism is a position worth legitimizing and supporting, then your opinion is deleterious to a free and open society.

I will support anyone's right to have those opinions, but I will be vocal in my dissent and my attempts to delegitimize those opinions. If that makes me intolerant, so be it. I am, by the same token, intolerant of attempts to evangelize any beliefs in schools or science denial.

My bold. 

Here's the thing though. 

Many people wouldn't put those things that way because that's not how they view them at all. If you stop and talk to some of these people, you may find that to them: 

1. ...it isn't about "gays not having rights." It's about keeping the definition of the word "marriage" to mean not just 2 people, but 1 man and 1 woman.

2. ...it isn't about "police killing black ppl without consequence." It's about them believing that more often than not, it's done in a case of legitimate self defense. 

3. ...it isn't about "poor people or women being deprived of reproductive choices." It's about believing that all people, no matter how small, have an inherent right to life above any other right. 

4. ...it isn't about "deporting 11 million people." It's about regulating our boarders and following the law. 

5. ...is isn't about "supporting white nationalism." It's about voting for whom they genuinely believed was the lesser of 2 evils, Trump. 

Now, before I get accused of falling into all 5 of those categories just because I'm seeing things through their point of view, let me say the only one that would apply to me is #3. Maybe #2 in certain cases.

But I'd like to think I'm able to understand that people think differently from myself. And just because someone voted for Trump, doesn't mean they are supporting white nationalism, for example. That's tolerance. 

And if Trump voters want to discuss it, I'll voice my opinion and disagreement for their candidate of choice. But I'm not going to bash them, or think the absolute worse of their motives, or stop being their friend. It's about giving people the benefit of the doubt and understanding that they may not be seeing things in the same way you're seeing them. And that doesn't make them bad people. 

As a Catholic in an atheist forum, I practice this type of tolerance of thought all the time with all of you. I'm not perfect and I screw up all the time. But I do try.

irrevivant they sided with trump knowing who he was and what he stood for and who supported him and what they stood for so whatever mental acrobatics they preform to justify there folly the result is the same they have fucked over minorities and gays and woman with absurd  and idiotic positions and there own selfish  wants a betrayal that cannot be forgiven and won't be forgotten