RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 19, 2016 at 8:17 am
(December 19, 2016 at 7:56 am)Jesster Wrote: 1) You are claiming that this being that you claim exists is a god, so it's the same kind of logic. [1] I am just pointing at myself instead of something that you can't even show to exist in the first place, so you have to take even more steps to buy your claim. [2] The only other difference is that my claim is more falsifiable. I am right here and this can be tested. It sounds like you aren't understanding the meaning of a word now. [3]
2) Right. We shouldn't be defining a god into existence "because we said so". Check and mate! [4]
1) Not exactly. For me, god fundamentally means necessary being, subsistent being, etc. That you have a difficulty discussing the concept of god without associating it with divine intelligence and action seems to be your issue, not mine.
2) But if you think "divinity" when you read my use of god in this thread, I think "being-itself" when you claim to be god. These are two different propositions:
a) god exists
b) I am god
Even if I couldn't show that god exists, the god concept itself cannot be true if nothing exists at all. However, while if nothing existed, you wouldn't exist either, that doesn't tell us anything about your claimed identity as the concept of god.
3) What would falsify the specific claim that you are god?
4) I couldn't agree more. So what do you have a problem with, the concept of necessary being, or the concept that god is necessary being?
