The Soul

[Rhizomorph13]

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Rhiz, I have had some strange experiences such as nightmares in wich I felt presence of evil so strong that I am convinced that it was from the outside. I was totally tormented In these nightmares by evil looking characters. That's why I believe in some sort of evil spirits. So I thought that they were creatures like us who decided to be bad.

There is a hadis(second source of Islamic teachings) that says that nightmare are from shaitan. That doesn't make me believe in Islam but I think that those religious Muslims who wrote those things simply contemplaited and got some things right or close to right.

So if evil spiritual beings exist I don't see those of us who choose good would not continue on. By the way I would rather look at civilised law of a good country to define good, not the quran hadis or the bible. I actually think that budhist ethics are preaty good but they don't believe in God and I do.

Rhizo and everyone else , this is an honest answer as to why am I certain, but even before these experienced I was a believer only now being a deist I discover God and devine in general by thinking what makes sense to me. For instance hell just makes no sense especially not eternally hell. I think that many religious scriptures that are followed were inspired by evil spirits.

Sorry everyone for going a bit of the subject. I thought I might explain a bit more.

Atheists, muslims, everyone, the God I believe in loves you all and wants you to remain good and honest. And after reading traditional scriptures it is only natural to end up atheist.

Thanks

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Interesting. I used to believe in souls when I first started out here on these forums due to some weird experiences I had, but with a bit of thought and discussion I rejected that belief. Here is the thread if you're interested: http://atheistforums.org/thread-2037.html

Here is my experience from that thread:

The main reason I believe in a soul is because of an experience I had where I slowly rose out of my body and saw a silver thread connecting me to my astral body to my physical body. I had never read anything about astral projection so I had no prior knowledge that would lead me to create the hallucination of a silver thread. "The Llewelyn Practical Guide to Astral Projection" talks at length about the silver thread and there were other things that matched my experience.

My idea of a soul does not necessarily posit a seperate body that remains intact after death although it might account for ghost sightings if it did exist at least for a while after death. If there was a part that lived on it would be the spirit and I am pretty sure that doesn't exist. The soul for me would be comprised of the energetic part of the body and the mind.

The model of reality I used to believe was comprised of a triune existence, that was supported by scripture but was kind of sciency. The three parts were God the Father (spirit, volition, impetus of being), God the son (body, matter, physical reality), and The Holy Ghost(soul, energy, energetic force). I've since abandoned it but it did help me reconcile what I read in the bible and what I perceived with my senses.

The bottom line, is; if you find yourself supporting a position with a dream experience it is almost certainly a false position.