Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?

[robvalue]

RR: Yes, that all seems pretty much correct.

However, it's not an argument, it's a possible conclusion based on observation. Indeed, you can't use the premise that there is "no free will" to determine what we should do, because that is contradictory. This is a frequent mistake I see. If there is nothing but hard determinism, it's all a show which we happen to be experiencing.

We don't know if things are purely deterministic yet. Nothing is to be gained by assuming that they are, and I wasn't suggesting we should.