RE: Karma poll
December 27, 2016 at 8:11 am
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2016 at 9:03 am by Little Rik.)
(December 26, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Chas Wrote:(December 24, 2016 at 8:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: Not yet dead?
Doctors say that is dead not in the process of dying.
You can't get it Chas, do you?
When someone is pronounced dead there is still biological function occurring.
Learn some science, you incredible dolt.
FOOL.

If you really believe that biological functions of a dead body (oh, sorry let us say your dying brain) are able to create clear and sharp visions and experiences still vivid and bright after years and years then you only fool yourself.
By the way Chas why don't you ask your experts if they know the relation between brain and consciousness and whether the consciousness die when the brain die or it dissociate from the body-brain at that stage.
Let me know if these experts know for sure one way or an other.

(December 27, 2016 at 7:06 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(December 26, 2016 at 7:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: What fucking evidence are you talking about? From small parts we get large trucks, large ships, huge skyscrapers. From small humans choosing to live
near each other develop huge cities. So where's the evidence that from the small you only get the small? There is none, because this is just another
"law" that you pulled whole hog from your ass, and it's demonstrably false.
With a lot of bricks is possible to build huge building.
No question about it Yog.
The point however was not whether we can create big things with small things materially speaking.
The question was different and as usual you didn't get it.![]()
It was whether with the small CONSCIOUSNESS can create a big consciousness.
The brain is made of matter and in the matter you can only find a dormant consciousness therefore
a brain can not possibly create an active consciousness as the consciousness in a human being.
Many bricks can make a huge building but the building itself does not have a bigger consciousness than a brick.
In fact both of them being made of matter have the same dormant or latent consciousness.
You never thought of that Yog, did you?![]()
(December 26, 2016 at 7:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: You guys always praise science but science tell you that you are dead wrong.![]()
Have you ever seen a car that create a driver?
Science tell us that is the human being that create the car.
Quote:What the fuck are you babbling about? Have you ever seen a human as big as a car? Small from small my ass.
You fail once again yog by missing the point.![]()
It is all about the matter that is unable to create something bigger that herself such as an awake consciousness.![]()
(December 26, 2016 at 7:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: How can something physical-material as the brain can create something bigger and abstract as the consciousness?
Quote:What have you been smoking? Consciousness is neither bigger nor smaller than the brain; it has no dimensions. And what, besides your prior assumption that the concrete can't give birth to the abstract makes you think the concrete can't serve as host for the abstract. The filing system on your computer is an abstract entity, but it sure as hell has a physical incarnation in the wiring of the computer. This is another "law" that you pulled from your ass and it depends on the brain not giving rise to consciousness, because then it would assuredly be false. So your "law" depends on the belief you have about consciousness being true in order to validate it. That's begging the question plain and simple.
Life in this universe is all about evolution.
In order for evolution to take place is necessary to insert or allow to enter the consciousness into a medium that present a parallelism with such a consciousness.
So a latent or dormant consciousness will lie in the matter while an awake consciousness will find a medium in the animal or human life.
So yes there is relation between body-brain and consciousness.
A developed consciousness need a body-brain in order to express itself and have the chance to evolve
that however does NOT means that the consciousness is a product of the brain or that the consciousness die when the body-brain die.
The consciousness will never die and the energy will also never die.
When the parallelism between body-brain and consciousness is no longer there then the consciousness
will have to find an other medium in order to continue his journey to the final goal of life.
Unfortunately atheism doesn't get it.![]()
(December 26, 2016 at 7:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: Did anybody ever told you what the word ABSTRACT means yog?
And did anybody ever told you what is the difference between material and abstract?
Quote:Do you ever do anything but pull things from your ass and quote non-existent "laws" ? The material and the abstract collide at multiple points, including consciousness.
FOOL.![]()
Not only collide but go hand in hand until life is there.
That doesn't mean that they are stuck together for ever even when the body die.
Science prove you wrong yog.
Consciousness and energy are the two sides of the same sheet.
They never die.
Ever.![]()
(December 26, 2016 at 7:51 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, sorry you are atheist.
Now is all clear.
I never thought of that yog.
Quote:There's a whole metric shit ton of stuff you never thought of, all because you're stuck in the dogma of beliefs you cribbed from Sarkar and Ananda Marga.
Let us hear about these dogmas.
Mention one if you can.