RE: Is atheism a scientific perspective?
December 28, 2016 at 7:39 am
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2016 at 7:44 am by robvalue.)
I just don't even know how to reply to some of this stuff.
People who think humans are "designed" realized eating plants was "good for us" quicker than people who don't subscribe to such a belief? What can I possibly say to that? Considering even now most of the world are religious, and for ages belief in design has been dominant, I don't even know what the complaint is. Any progress that was going to be made had plenty of time. But in fact, the progress has come when people set aside their religious beliefs (where applicable) to do proper science.
Now, taken for what it is, the human form is truly astonishing when you consider it came about through nothing more than random changes and natural selection (after life began somehow). But if you instead have someone choosing to arrange things how they are, then it becomes stupid. It becomes not impressive at all. And if that someone also created the rules in the first place, and created all these weird obstacles so that it could overcome them with all these strange parts of our body, it becomes laughable.
I think our friend is here is confused as to whether the human species was designed, the materials of life were designed, or the "way evolution works" was designed. The first is blatantly untrue, since we already know what we evolved from. The second and third are already attributed to whatever pissweasel designed our reality in the first place, so there's no extra design involved here.
Where is the design stage? What was done? How? With what? By who? What mechanism? Why?
Edit: Of course, "impressive" is subjective. Some people are very easily impressed.
People who think humans are "designed" realized eating plants was "good for us" quicker than people who don't subscribe to such a belief? What can I possibly say to that? Considering even now most of the world are religious, and for ages belief in design has been dominant, I don't even know what the complaint is. Any progress that was going to be made had plenty of time. But in fact, the progress has come when people set aside their religious beliefs (where applicable) to do proper science.
Now, taken for what it is, the human form is truly astonishing when you consider it came about through nothing more than random changes and natural selection (after life began somehow). But if you instead have someone choosing to arrange things how they are, then it becomes stupid. It becomes not impressive at all. And if that someone also created the rules in the first place, and created all these weird obstacles so that it could overcome them with all these strange parts of our body, it becomes laughable.
I think our friend is here is confused as to whether the human species was designed, the materials of life were designed, or the "way evolution works" was designed. The first is blatantly untrue, since we already know what we evolved from. The second and third are already attributed to whatever pissweasel designed our reality in the first place, so there's no extra design involved here.
Where is the design stage? What was done? How? With what? By who? What mechanism? Why?
Edit: Of course, "impressive" is subjective. Some people are very easily impressed.
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