(December 30, 2016 at 1:21 am)Godschild Wrote:(December 29, 2016 at 11:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So without peer review all you are saying is "I like what I believe". So do all the other humans with other god claims.
See if you can spot the pattern.
"The bible is a book that Christians use to grow in a better relationship with our Savior"
"The Koran is a book that Muslims use to grow in better relationship with Mohammed and Allah"
"The Torah and Talmud are books that Jews use to grow in a better relationship with Yahweh"
"Buddha is the enlightened one whom Buddhists use to reach Nirvana"
"The Baghavad Gitas and Vedas are whom the Hindus use to grow in a better relationship with their gods"
GC Wrote:Only the Jews of the ones you listed believe in having a relationship with their God.
Brian37 Wrote:Great that you accept that you are not claiming the bible is a science textbook. That is a start. But if you accept that all the other religions you reject are merely the likes of others, don't stupidly think that they don't think they got it right as much as you think you got it right. You all think you got it right.
GC Wrote:You need to understand I know without a doubt Christianity is the only true religion, the one with a living God. I know the others believe they are right, but they're not. If someone is practicing a religion without looking for or wanting a relationship with a supreme being then how can they truly think they are right.
Brian37 Wrote:GC you, like most humans bought into something either your parents and or society sold you. Nobody is asking you what you believe, but why you feel the need to believe it. It feels right? So?
GC Wrote:I bought into nothing, I was called by God and answered yes. Since that time God as He promised has proven himself to me in various ways, making it impossible for me to deny Him. My belief and knowledge of God has nothing to do with feels good or feels right. I believe that most people who go on feelings are fooling themselves for a variety of reasons but, any and all those reasons are for their own self interest and that's not what Christianity is about.
Brian37 Wrote:Evolution DOES NOT claim humans are an apex master species. Evolution says humans simply have different adaptations.
GC Wrote:I know this, I do understand what evolutionary science claims. However my world view is different and I see man absolutely at the top.
Brian37 Wrote:Religion however contradicts itself with the claim humans are an apex and a master species perfectly designed. And when the first polytheistic gods and monotheistic gods were claimed, humans were simply looking for answers as to why good and bad happened.
GC Wrote:Christianity states that only Adam and Eve were perfectly created with the free will of choice. As for why people were inventing gods your above claim is only speculation. Today we see the peoples of the past as primitive yet they have built structures we can not replicate. In Syria there is a foundation stone so heavy that modern equipment could't move it, yet the people who constructed the building formed this stone and then moved it to the building site. Many ancient people were highly intelligent many of our machines today are based from ancient design.
Brian37 Wrote:50 to 60 million humans die every year from everything, in birth to old age, from accident, crime natural disaster and war. That does not strike me that Yahweh, Jesus or .... or ..... or .... or..... is watching out for humans.
GC Wrote:All those "or" gods may have made that promise but, the God of scripture said it is appointed to man that one death is a certainty. He did promise to help those who sought Him with their problems and to redeem those who would believe in Christ and what He did for us.
Brian37 Wrote:Humans have always thought their deities were real since they first started making those guesses as to reality. I am trying to tell you that really all it is is our species projections of their own attributes and desires and fears and narcissism.
GC Wrote:These things may seem true to you, as for me I know that the God of creation is real and alive today. No one had to convince me, no one brainwashed me, like I said earlier in this post God proved himself to me as He promised He would.
GC
(December 29, 2016 at 11:31 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: GC, why would you think evolution would have a better result than being created by a perfect being? You seem to be going with 'if we evolved, we'd be better than if we were created'. Doesn't sound very sound to me.
I don't and I'm not sure why you thought I stated that. What I tried to say was why would evolution leave out of man what it put into all other species if evolution were true.
GC
You are ignoring your OWN admission, that you are NOT claiming the bible is a science textbook.
STOP IGNORING THAT.
If your car breaks down, and you don't know how to fix it, you don't pray to a car pixy, you take it to a mechanic. You don't invent car spirits or car devils to explain why it is not working, you take it to a mechanic.
GREAT you admit the bible is NOT a science textbook.
So when a evolutionary scientist states the fact that EVOLUTION IS FACT, stop being fucking stupid, accept it, your private parts will not fall off and you wont burst into flames.
Otherwise, since you don't know how to build a car from scratch, pray to a car pixy to fix it. That is how stupid your logic sounds to us.
GC "Brian, stop being so offensive"
Well what the hell do you want me to do? When you say the bible is true, while admitting it is not a science textbook, to us you might as well be saying.
GC "The Chicago Cubs won the Superbowl"
We get that you like what you believe we really do get that, a great number of us were as deep into belief as you feel the need to be now. But we are telling you it really is just in your head. The good news is that their is no sky bully to threaten you or ground troll to burn you. You wont burst into flames if you find out you were wrong.
