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Adoption of mentally impaired babies
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RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
(January 12, 2017 at 7:52 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(January 12, 2017 at 2:10 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I guess I'll never understand the mentality of it being okay, even morally good, to have your 2nd/3rd trimester baby killed in útero  (in probably an extremely painful death), while at the same time saying it's disgustingly immoral to have him/her adopted by loving parents right after birth. I can understand someone thinking they are *both* immoral and selfish. But to say the former is morally good while simultaneoisly saying the latter is disgusting and selfish makes 0 sense to me.

I guess I'll never understand how you got "disgustingly immoral" out of my saying it's selfish. Perhaps you should read what's actually written?

Since you profess bafflement, I'll put it simply: I think it's selfish of this hypothetical mother to hold her morals to be more important than her child's quality of life, or lack thereof.

You think a mentally handicapped dying a probably painful, non consensual, deliberate death in the womb is better for their well being than being raised by loving adopted parents? That doesn't make any sense to me either. If thats the case, why dont we just euthenize them right after they come out of utero? It would at least be less painful and more dignified that way for many of them. Also, the whole reason why anyone would think adoption in this case is more moral than abortion in the first place, is *precisely because* they would think it was better for the child. Yet you accuse them of putting their morals above the well being of their child. That doesn't make any sense.

Ugh. Can we please stop talking about aborting this baby? That was not the question asked, and believe it or not, aborting their 2nd/3rd trimester baby isn't a realistic moral option to be considered for many parents. This was meant to be a question about the morality of adoption. I dont need to hear ppl say the baby should be aborted instead. I don't need to hear ppl say (in so many words) that a baby in his 20+ weeks gestation is not a real baby. Truly sorry I started this thread. Sad
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Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 11:26 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Minimalist - January 10, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Regina - January 10, 2017 at 7:56 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by vorlon13 - January 10, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by TheRealJoeFish - January 10, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2017 at 12:14 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by TheRealJoeFish - January 10, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by c172 - January 10, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by c172 - January 10, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Whateverist - January 10, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by brewer - January 10, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by brewer - January 10, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by ukatheist - January 10, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by ukatheist - January 10, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 3:10 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by AceBoogie - January 10, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 4:25 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Neo-Scholastic - January 10, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 5:10 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 10, 2017 at 5:43 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 11, 2017 at 1:09 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Athene - January 11, 2017 at 2:03 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Athene - January 11, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Seraphina - January 10, 2017 at 9:50 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 12, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 2:10 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 12, 2017 at 7:52 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 12, 2017 at 11:54 am
Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by LadyForCamus - January 12, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by BrokenQuill92 - January 10, 2017 at 7:22 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FlyingNarwhal - January 10, 2017 at 7:42 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 10, 2017 at 7:52 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 1:47 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 14, 2017 at 1:50 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 9:24 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 9:36 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 10:06 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Mermaid - January 10, 2017 at 9:56 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 9:59 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 10:03 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Seraphina - January 10, 2017 at 10:13 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 10:39 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 10:54 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 11, 2017 at 2:07 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by ignoramus - January 11, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by CapnAwesome - January 11, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Drich - January 11, 2017 at 3:30 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by LadyForCamus - January 11, 2017 at 10:20 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by rado84 - January 12, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 12, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 12, 2017 at 5:15 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by rado84 - January 13, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 13, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by BrokenQuill92 - January 12, 2017 at 2:00 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Aoi Magi - January 12, 2017 at 9:27 am
Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by LadyForCamus - January 12, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Divinity - January 12, 2017 at 4:36 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 13, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 13, 2017 at 11:33 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 1:58 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 14, 2017 at 12:55 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 2:26 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Aoi Magi - January 14, 2017 at 3:33 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Aoi Magi - January 14, 2017 at 10:50 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by BrokenQuill92 - January 14, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 14, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 6:03 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 14, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 15, 2017 at 8:45 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 15, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by abaris - January 14, 2017 at 6:21 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Shell B - January 14, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Rhondazvous - January 14, 2017 at 8:51 pm

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