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Adoption of mentally impaired babies
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RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
(January 12, 2017 at 9:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You think a mentally handicapped dying a probably painful, non consensual, deliberate death in the womb is better for their well being than being raised by loving adopted parents? That doesn't make any sense to me either.

Don't be silly -- "non-consensual"! Of course it's non-consensual; a fetus is not a person and not empowered to give consent, and wouldn't be until 18 years after its birth.


(January 12, 2017 at 9:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If thats the case, why dont we just euthenize them right after they come out of utero? It would at least be less painful and more dignified that way for many of them.

I'd like to see a source for this measurement of relative pain that you claim is different given the different states. Please support this.

(January 12, 2017 at 9:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Also, the whole reason why anyone would think adoption in this case is more moral than abortion in the first place, is *precisely because* they would think it was better for the child. Yet you accuse them of putting their morals above the well being of their child. That doesn't make any sense.

They may think it's better for the child, but they may certainly be wrong. And the fact remains that by choosing their own morality, and their own ability to sleep peacefully at night, over the very real possibility that they are making for another human's lifetime of unhappiness, is indeed selfish. The fact that you cannot get your head around that doesn't surprise me in the least.

And I haven't even gotten started, myself, on the incompatibility of your position that all life is precious, but if it's born with a birth defect, it's not precious enough to keep. It's hard to not see that as being selfish as well.

(January 12, 2017 at 9:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ugh. Can we please stop talking about aborting this baby? That was not the question asked, and believe it or not, aborting their 2nd/3rd trimester baby isn't a realistic moral option to be considered for many parents. This was meant to be a question about the morality of adoption. I dont need to hear ppl say the baby should be aborted instead. I don't need to hear ppl say (in so many words) that a baby in his 20+ weeks gestation is not a real baby. Truly sorry I started this thread. Sad

Who cares what you need to hear, or how you want this thread to turn out? If you have a problem with any posts here, report them to a moderator, but quit trying to channelize the conversation in such a self-serving manner. Not everyone thinks like you do. Don't worry -- you'll live.

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Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 11:26 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Minimalist - January 10, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Regina - January 10, 2017 at 7:56 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by vorlon13 - January 10, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by TheRealJoeFish - January 10, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FatAndFaithless - January 10, 2017 at 12:14 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by TheRealJoeFish - January 10, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by c172 - January 10, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by c172 - January 10, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Whateverist - January 10, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by brewer - January 10, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by brewer - January 10, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by ukatheist - January 10, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by ukatheist - January 10, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 3:10 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by AceBoogie - January 10, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 4:25 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Neo-Scholastic - January 10, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 5:10 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 10, 2017 at 5:43 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 11, 2017 at 1:09 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Athene - January 11, 2017 at 2:03 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Athene - January 11, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Seraphina - January 10, 2017 at 9:50 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 12, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 2:10 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 12, 2017 at 7:52 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 12, 2017 at 11:54 am
Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by LadyForCamus - January 12, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by BrokenQuill92 - January 10, 2017 at 7:22 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by FlyingNarwhal - January 10, 2017 at 7:42 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 10, 2017 at 7:52 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 1:47 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 14, 2017 at 1:50 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 9:24 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 9:36 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 10:06 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Mermaid - January 10, 2017 at 9:56 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 9:59 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 10:03 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Seraphina - January 10, 2017 at 10:13 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 10:39 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 10, 2017 at 10:54 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 10, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Cato - January 11, 2017 at 2:07 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by ignoramus - January 11, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by CapnAwesome - January 11, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Drich - January 11, 2017 at 3:30 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by LadyForCamus - January 11, 2017 at 10:20 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by rado84 - January 12, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Amarok - January 12, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 12, 2017 at 5:15 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by rado84 - January 13, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 13, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by BrokenQuill92 - January 12, 2017 at 2:00 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Aoi Magi - January 12, 2017 at 9:27 am
Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by LadyForCamus - January 12, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Divinity - January 12, 2017 at 4:36 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 13, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 13, 2017 at 11:33 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 1:58 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Thumpalumpacus - January 14, 2017 at 12:55 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 2:26 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Aoi Magi - January 14, 2017 at 3:33 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Aoi Magi - January 14, 2017 at 10:50 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by BrokenQuill92 - January 14, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 14, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 14, 2017 at 6:03 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 14, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Godschild - January 15, 2017 at 8:45 am
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Nay_Sayer - January 15, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by abaris - January 14, 2017 at 6:21 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Shell B - January 14, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies - by Rhondazvous - January 14, 2017 at 8:51 pm

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