(January 25, 2017 at 12:51 pm)phoenix31 Wrote:(January 25, 2017 at 12:39 pm)Jesster Wrote: And how do you suppose we make everyone believe in the values of religion? If that was possible, couldn't we make everyone believe in the positive values of a secular society just as easily? How about we just go around brain-washing everyone?
I don't know if we could make people believe in the positive values of a secular society because morality is relative. And I'm not saying that I think we should make people believe in the value of religion. I'm just wondering if, as it's already in place, it's useful for people to self regulate their own behavior.
Yes, morality is relative. Societies can set up a shared moral code, but people can always choose to deviate from that. That's the exact reason why people could also deviate from a religious society to commit crime. This is why your hypothetical fails. You are relying on the idea that you can convince everyone to stop committing crimes, which is unrealistic no matter the level of religiosity.
So tell me, if a criminal can get away with anything he wants, how does a religious society stop them?