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Does the World Need Religion?
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RE: Does the World Need Religion?
(January 25, 2017 at 8:02 pm)phoenix31 Wrote:
(January 25, 2017 at 4:59 pm)Cephus Wrote:
(January 25, 2017 at 1:43 pm)phoenix31 Wrote: Who cares?  You're confusing correlation with causation.  If atheism is not responsible for the atrocities, then the fact that they were atheists is irrelevant.  And you are simply wrong.  More atrocities are committed by the religious, simply because there are more religious people.  And of those things, a lot of them are caused by the religion, by the atrocity commiters own admission.

It doesn't make sense to me to say more atrocities are caused by the religious just because there are more religious people than atheists. Lots of religious people don't commit atrocities. I think the only way to compare is to tally the numbers of holy wars and that sort of thing against other atrocities like the ones I previously mentioned, but we've already established that we can't properly do that here, so unless someone else has already accurately done it, there's not a way to know.
You don't know how statistics work, do you?  If even 1%, for example, of each group commits atrocities, then theists commit much more than atheists do, simply because there are many, many more theists than atheists at the moment.  And again, I don't think you could come up with more than one or two atheists who claim to have committed their acts in the name of atheism, compared to tons of theists who will explain that God told them to murder, rape and abuse others, you just have no leg to stand on whatsoever.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 11:05 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 11:16 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:00 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:10 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:46 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 2:11 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 25, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - January 25, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by paulpablo - January 25, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 2:18 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 11:38 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by vorlon13 - January 25, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 12:19 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by vorlon13 - January 25, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 12:06 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 25, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 3:03 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 4:33 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 4:47 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 4:54 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 25, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 8:02 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 26, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Jesster - January 25, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Asmodee - January 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Mr Greene - January 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Whateverist - January 25, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Whateverist - January 25, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 5:31 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cyberman - January 25, 2017 at 5:14 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Mr Greene - January 26, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by brewer - January 25, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 25, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2017 at 8:30 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Sterben - January 25, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Minimalist - January 25, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by dyresand - January 25, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - January 26, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 26, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Cephus - January 26, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 26, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by brewer - January 26, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 26, 2017 at 5:20 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Assimilate - January 26, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Whateverist - January 26, 2017 at 5:24 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - January 26, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by phoenix31 - January 26, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Salty Science - January 26, 2017 at 9:50 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2017 at 3:34 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by Sal - February 7, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: Does the World Need Religion? - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2017 at 4:12 pm

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