RE: Does the World Need Religion?
January 26, 2017 at 10:28 pm
(This post was last modified: January 26, 2017 at 10:45 pm by phoenix31.)
(January 26, 2017 at 9:48 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:phoenix31 Wrote:Yeah I guess I would say people it's about needing to think and feel a certain way that is meaningful for them. I hadn't really thought about that outside of the terms of religion because to me, right now, morality doesn't make sense outside of religion. It's just my idea against your idea and whoever's strongest wins.
Thank you for your response, phoenix31. IMO, my second question was answered in your post:
phoenix31 Wrote:It's just my idea against your idea and whoever's strongest wins.
If religion is ultimately a way of thinking and making sense of reality, then why would it be exempt from the "it's just my idea against your idea and whoever is strongest wins"? This is what I was focusing on in my second question. I appreciate and respect that religious morality can feel very real and objective to its practitioners, but does that mean that it is the only way for a moral system to make sense and be meaningful? What about people from the secular population, especially members from this website, who are peaceful, constructive, and passionate about their secular morals and the meaning and fulfillment that comes from them? Why would religious morality be any more objective or meaningful than secular morality or any other kind of morality?
Thank you for your time and attention. Live long and prosper.
This makes a lot of sense. Both your posts made me think. Thanks for taking the time.
(January 26, 2017 at 10:00 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(January 26, 2017 at 4:08 pm)phoenix31 Wrote: Yeah I guess I would say people it's about needing to think and feel a certain way that is meaningful for them. I hadn't really thought about that outside of the terms of religion because to me, right now, morality doesn't make sense outside of religion. It's just my idea against your idea and whoever's strongest wins.
I don't know how to answer the second question.
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Who gets to determine who is the strongest? And strongest based on what?
Once the determination has been made, how is it applied?
Well I don't know, that's what's scary. I guess whoever's society has the most money or the most advanced science or whatever, I don't even know. Why'd we win over Hitler? Why was his system of beliefs not moral and ours was? I don't know.
*Edit* I forgot to answer your last question. I don't know how it's applied. I mean our laws and everything are based on democratic processes, in the USA. So I guess the majority rules? I don't know. There's culture clashes and people decide for themselves what they think. Or they're brainwashed, that too.