(January 28, 2017 at 11:19 am)Astonished Wrote:(January 28, 2017 at 10:33 am)Little Rik Wrote: When I say..........not for those which the materialistic game play an important role in their lives.....
I mean anyone whose materialistic game play an important role in their lives not just atheists.
Take Trump.
He is a theist and yet he is stuck in the materialistic game.
One more thing Ast.
To know what is good or bad you don't really need to know that from God although God would be more clear regard that.
By doing certain things you feel good and by doing bad things you feel bad.
The problem is getting more complicated when a false sense of pleasure come from doing bad things
like in the case of a thief that is happy when he steal something but if you keep your reasoning under control you can't go wrong.
And last about God that suppose to keep us in the dark.
It is a natural process that plants and animals follow the instinct while humans use mainly the free will.
God act like a father that guide his kids until they grow up.
Once they grow up is up to them to work out how to live in the good or the bad.
Animals are like kids that by following the instinct follow God wishes but as soon as their consciousness grow up and they reincarnate into humans God stop pushing them to higher form of consciousness.
Now is up to them to sort out what is good that help them to climb higher or the bad that push back down into the animal life.
However if you are smart you can bypass this uncertainly by asking for help.
If you act in sincerity the teacher will show up for sure and everything will work out the right way.
I don't know why I bother putting so much effort into my posts, you are either not reading them or simply not understanding a god damn thing I write.
Lumping me in with Trump, I cannot believe you don't realize how much that angers me and everyone else who hates his greedy guts. Without justification, you insult others in every way possible just because you're projecting your own lack of moral integrity, intellect and self-respect. Can you see now why it's impossible for this society to function when faith is part of the equation? It has absolutely poisoned your entire character.
According to you, god stuck us in this material world and fucked off, leaving behind very poor choices of who to communicate any messages to and look where that's gotten us. Making us with brains so flawed that it's possible to make you believe 2+2 is 5 just by telling us that when we're young even though it can be proven to be wrong right in front of our fucking faces. This is not a sign of a god who gives half a fuck about any of us. Even if it did exist, want to communicate and have a relationship with anyone, it is not a god worthy of worship, at all, and should in fact be despised for that mere fact even if we don't consider his rap sheet from the holy books he hasn't seen fit to correct.
And of fucking course we don't get our knowledge of good or bad from god, because god likes slavery, rape and human sacrifice, we should be damn grateful we don't get a sense of morality from god! And it's so obvious to even a child that people can get a false sense of what's good from things, that's why there are heroes and villains on their Saturday morning cartoons. Why even bother mentioning something so basic? Your belief is literally making you intellectually stunted to a level I could have surpassed in elementary school. I don't like knowing that my fellow human beings are keeping themselves from excelling and becoming better, or even WANTING to become better, because of this abominable delusion.
This last bit kills me. It's like the bible, completely contradicting itself over and over. We need to be kept in the dark, but he's there, although...maybe we can't be sure he's there at all. Are you even listening to yourself? Do you not at least see how someone not part of your faith could hear that and think you need medicating and psychiatric help? That is the definition of a delusion, and let's throw some narcissism and possible mild schizophrenia since you have such an elaborate false reality imagined and yet aren't capable of expressing it clearly to others. We do not have the instinct to believe, it has to be built into us by duped parents or others when we're young or otherwise have something not quite right in our psyche to latch onto these beliefs and not let go despite being proven 100% wrong.
When you write something Ast you should use both voices not just the one coming from your heart.
If you also use the voice coming from your brain you would write something a lot more interesting.
Put in this way Ast.
You are a father.
Your kids have grown up.
They left home.
Do you really think that you can tell them what to do or not to do?
God act in the same way.
He gave them the free will then is up to them to sort out what to do and if they are smart they will try to go back to their father asking for advise.
You never thought of that Ast, did you?
