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A question to all atheists!
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RE: A question to all atheists!
(January 29, 2017 at 12:36 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(January 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Gestas Wrote: Don't scientists presuppose that the universe can be rationally understood before doing science? If they don't at least do that then how can they do science? What are they looking for if not logical explanations? I can't think of anything in science that isn't logical. Hard to understand, maybe... not completely understood, sure, but illogical? Nope.

That's not the same as behaving to what you think is logical. It's logical to think the Universe revolves around the Earth because that's what we observe. Doesn't make it reality.


There's nothing illogical about the Earth revolving around the Sun though.

And the speed, trajectory, etc., of how the Earth revolves around the Sun is perfectly logical in that we can predict where the Earth will be in X amount of time. If it behaved in an irrational way then it'd be impossible to predict where it came from or where it will be going.

Can you give me one example of a phenomenon in science that behaves "illogically" (besides scientists themselves)? Please note that illogically is not the same as counter-intuitively or oddly.
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A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:28 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:39 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:51 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:56 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 28, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by downbeatplumb - January 29, 2017 at 5:58 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 29, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Aoi Magi - January 29, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Whateverist - January 30, 2017 at 12:10 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by chimp3 - January 28, 2017 at 8:37 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Chad32 - January 28, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by brewer - January 28, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Astreja - January 28, 2017 at 8:45 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 28, 2017 at 8:48 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by flagbears - January 28, 2017 at 8:54 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 28, 2017 at 10:11 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 2:20 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 2:37 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 2:41 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 2:58 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 3:04 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 3:08 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 6:00 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 12:46 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:50 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 4:25 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 29, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 29, 2017 at 7:36 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Angrboda - January 29, 2017 at 6:48 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 4:07 am
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Joods - January 29, 2017 at 5:44 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 1:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by downbeatplumb - January 29, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:09 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:16 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Joods - January 29, 2017 at 5:02 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 29, 2017 at 5:51 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Aoi Magi - January 29, 2017 at 5:58 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Aoi Magi - January 29, 2017 at 8:37 am
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2017 at 10:04 am
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:47 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:07 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 12:23 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 12:27 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 29, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 1:42 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2017 at 1:52 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 29, 2017 at 2:09 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Assimilate - January 29, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Assimilate - January 29, 2017 at 3:05 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 1:42 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 2:34 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 5:46 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by The Valkyrie - January 29, 2017 at 5:53 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:39 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:45 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 29, 2017 at 7:40 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:36 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:41 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:50 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:51 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 29, 2017 at 7:53 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:54 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by brewer - January 29, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by brewer - January 29, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 29, 2017 at 8:43 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Assimilate - January 29, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by brewer - January 29, 2017 at 8:35 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Assimilate - January 29, 2017 at 9:18 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by The Valkyrie - January 29, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 8:50 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by brewer - January 29, 2017 at 9:02 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by brewer - January 29, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 29, 2017 at 9:51 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 10:27 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:09 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 30, 2017 at 2:34 am
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 29, 2017 at 10:28 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 11:31 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:48 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Amarok - January 30, 2017 at 1:56 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 30, 2017 at 2:16 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 30, 2017 at 2:40 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 30, 2017 at 2:45 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 30, 2017 at 2:44 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by pocaracas - January 30, 2017 at 4:02 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 30, 2017 at 4:09 am
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 30, 2017 at 11:52 am
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A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 30, 2017 at 8:27 am
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 30, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 30, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 30, 2017 at 9:58 am
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 30, 2017 at 12:16 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 30, 2017 at 12:35 pm
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