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A question to all atheists!
RE: A question to all atheists!
(January 28, 2017 at 8:26 pm)Gestas Wrote: I am interested in the community's thoughts on a particular hypothetical proposition. And for the sake of this discussion nothing means nonexistent, zero potentiality, or a state of affairs where not one thing exists (regardless of what the things are made of). The natural world would mean all matter and energy, including the behavior the matter and energy exhibits.

The hypothetical proposition is the natural world did not always exist. In other words, there was state of affairs where there was no natural world. Now there is a state of affairs where there is a natural world (planets, gravity, stars, etc.) and we're living in it.

And my question is what, if anything, can be inferred from this hypothetical proposition?

Thank you.

Seems like a way of beating around the bush instead of just asking something along the lines of is there a creator/god.  Where did everything come from.


I'll stick with the boring answer of I don't know.


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A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:28 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:39 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:51 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 28, 2017 at 8:56 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 28, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 28, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by downbeatplumb - January 29, 2017 at 5:58 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 29, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Aoi Magi - January 29, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Whateverist - January 30, 2017 at 12:10 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by chimp3 - January 28, 2017 at 8:37 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Chad32 - January 28, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by brewer - January 28, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Astreja - January 28, 2017 at 8:45 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 28, 2017 at 8:48 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by flagbears - January 28, 2017 at 8:54 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 28, 2017 at 10:11 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 2:20 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 2:37 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 2:41 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 2:58 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 3:04 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 3:08 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 6:00 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 12:46 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:50 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 4:25 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 29, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Jesster - January 29, 2017 at 7:36 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Angrboda - January 29, 2017 at 6:48 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 4:07 am
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Joods - January 29, 2017 at 5:44 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 1:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by downbeatplumb - January 29, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:09 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:16 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Joods - January 29, 2017 at 5:02 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 29, 2017 at 5:51 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Aoi Magi - January 29, 2017 at 5:58 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Aoi Magi - January 29, 2017 at 8:37 am
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2017 at 10:04 am
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:47 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 12:07 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 29, 2017 at 12:15 pm
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A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 29, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 1:42 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Mr Greene - January 29, 2017 at 2:09 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Assimilate - January 29, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Cyberman - January 29, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Assimilate - January 29, 2017 at 3:05 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 1:42 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 29, 2017 at 2:34 pm
A question to all atheists! - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2017 at 5:46 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by The Valkyrie - January 29, 2017 at 5:53 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:39 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:45 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:36 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:41 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Alex K - January 29, 2017 at 7:50 pm
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:51 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 7:54 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 8:01 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 29, 2017 at 8:43 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by The Valkyrie - January 29, 2017 at 9:41 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 9:57 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 29, 2017 at 11:09 pm
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Amarok - January 30, 2017 at 1:56 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by ignoramus - January 30, 2017 at 2:16 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 30, 2017 at 2:40 am
RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 30, 2017 at 2:45 am
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by Gestas - January 30, 2017 at 4:09 am
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RE: A question to all atheists! - by robvalue - January 30, 2017 at 9:58 am
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