RE: A question to all atheists!
January 30, 2017 at 2:34 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2017 at 2:40 am by Gestas.)
(January 30, 2017 at 1:22 am)Alex K Wrote:(January 29, 2017 at 11:09 pm)Gestas Wrote: All he’s doing is avoiding the crux of the hypothetical by arguing over semantics, which is why I switched over to possible world semantics and his response to that was “haha”.
I’ll repeat what I wrote earlier. Imagine a possible world where no natural world (including time if you assume time is intertwined with the natural world) existed. In this possible world could a natural world be produced? My answer is no. If your answer is yes, then please explain to me how a timeless state of affairs with zero potentiality would produce a natural world.
Now, we live in a possible world (the actual world) where there is a natural world and time. Therefore, we can conclude that the natural world and time always existed.
If you can’t follow this logic then you’re either dumb or don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, physicist or not.
By the way, this is what I’ve been saying from the beginning, but I had to rephrase it in this way because Alex kept going back to semantics because he’s not intelligent enough to rebut the heart of what is being discussed here.
It is you who has demonstrated the complete inability to address anything that's said in a meaningful way or make any attempt to reflect about your own argument and assumptions. You're merely repeating the same line over and over with more insults mixed in. That could be construed aa lack of sufficient intelligence, but I rather suspect that your intellectual inflexibility stems from the fact that you are trying to follow a fixed script to a "gotcha"-moment against atheists.
I simplified my argument even further for you and you still don't understand it? Seriously?
I find the circle-jerking, patting each other on the back, and sniffing each other's farts amusing, despite the fact that not a single person here has been able to rebut my argument for an eternal natural world. I shouldn't be surprised though. What else can you guys do? Learn? Admit that you're wrong? Lol.
I accomplished my mission. I wanted to see what kind of logically incoherent drivel you guys could come up with in order to avoid an eternal natural world.
My recommendation to all of you is to read a basic book on logic or to take a Philosophy 101 class to supplement your PhD in searching for shit on Google, as opposed to pretending to be a physicist on an atheist forum that 20 people know about.