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The sad future of the democratic party
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RE: The sad future of the democratic party
(February 6, 2017 at 1:55 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Cory Booker did a shitty thing by voting against the med importation bill. His excuse was equally shitty.

You have to change campaign finance laws in order to ensure that this kind of thing doesn't happen to new blood. In fact, I think throwing out the crop of young Dems only increases the probability that lobbyists get their nails dug in deeper. In order to get re-elected you have to have a shit ton of money. In order to have a shit ton of money as a young Senator/Congressman, you have to play the same game as your opponent. When you are a first term senator with no voting history, you are prime meat.

Unless you are as firmly entrenched as someone like Bernie, you simply have no other option. I still blame Cory Booker, but I like what he stands for and the message he gives.  I won't jump ship and write the guy off over one bill considering the climate in Washington.

This is the issue. The Republicans are playing a numbers game, and Democratic voters are playing an ideology game. That is what is going to kill the Democratic party. We have so many half informed voters like you, dyresand, who will blow up the entire gambit over one issue and then complain when the Republicans take total control and do what they've been promising the whole time. So while Republican voters are content to vote in a fucking monster when it also means they get all the deregulation and defunding of social programs and Re-Christification of anything they can, Democratic voters will bitch about email servers and war hawking and not show up to vote for the local politicians and Congressional elections because the Democrats have a couple of people who are icky, too. Meanwhile the guy who is actually in office is threatening political/military retaliation on 3 continents and sewing diplomatic discord everywhere, destabilizing everything he touches. But Cory Booker is in the pocket of Big Pharma, man!

I get it but the democrats had such a easy person to beat but the problem here is i wouldn't really have seen much of a difference in picks when it comes to Hillary winning.
Either or we would have been off in a bad situation we would escalate in Syria that was one of HRC's plans. But i didn't vote for her i did that out of good conscious would i have liked her to win now that  i look at it yes. I want the democratic party to do good i agree with Cory Booker but at the same time we need cheaper and affordable medication NAFTA definitely should be renegotiated to get some jobs back not all (just being realistic) and TPP should never exist. But this the democratic party as it stands is just one huge shit show because they have taken money and use lobbyists to get what they want done. If Cory Book ran in 2020 i don't think he will win but if he really want's to win he should go back on what he did for affordable medication it will improve his chances of winning a probable 2020 election because the good things you do now withing the 4 years of a Trump administration matters. Cory Booker like Obama can talk a smooth game but he has to back it up with things he does now within 4 years you can call repealing cheaper medication a shit stain on his record that would probably end bad  for him when he is running.

(February 6, 2017 at 1:55 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Cory Booker did a shitty thing by voting against the med importation bill. His excuse was equally shitty.

You have to change campaign finance laws in order to ensure that this kind of thing doesn't happen to new blood. In fact, I think throwing out the crop of young Dems only increases the probability that lobbyists get their nails dug in deeper. In order to get re-elected you have to have a shit ton of money. In order to have a shit ton of money as a young Senator/Congressman, you have to play the same game as your opponent. When you are a first term senator with no voting history, you are prime meat.

Unless you are as firmly entrenched as someone like Bernie, you simply have no other option. I still blame Cory Booker, but I like what he stands for and the message he gives.  I won't jump ship and write the guy off over one bill considering the climate in Washington.

This is the issue. The Republicans are playing a numbers game, and Democratic voters are playing an ideology game. That is what is going to kill the Democratic party. We have so many half informed voters like you, dyresand, who will blow up the entire gambit over one issue and then complain when the Republicans take total control and do what they've been promising the whole time. So while Republican voters are content to vote in a fucking monster when it also means they get all the deregulation and defunding of social programs and Re-Christification of anything they can, Democratic voters will bitch about email servers and war hawking and not show up to vote for the local politicians and Congressional elections because the Democrats have a couple of people who are icky, too. Meanwhile the guy who is actually in office is threatening political/military retaliation on 3 continents and sewing diplomatic discord everywhere, destabilizing everything he touches. But Cory Booker is in the pocket of Big Pharma, man!

I get it but the democrats had such a easy person to beat but the problem here is i wouldn't really have seen much of a difference in picks when it comes to Hillary winning.
Either or we would have been off in a bad situation we would escalate in Syria that was one of HRC's plans. But i didn't vote for her i did that out of good conscious would i have liked her to win now that  i look at it yes. I want the democratic party to do good i agree with Cory Booker but at the same time we need cheaper and affordable medication NAFTA definitely should be renegotiated to get some jobs back not all (just being realistic) and TPP should never exist. But this the democratic party as it stands is just one huge shit show because they have taken money and use lobbyists to get what they want done. If Cory Book ran in 2020 i don't think he will win but if he really want's to win he should go back on what he did for affordable medication it will improve his chances of winning a probable 2020 election because the good things you do now withing the 4 years of a Trump administration matters. Cory Booker like Obama can talk a smooth game but he has to back it up with things he does now within 4 years you can call repealing cheaper medication a shit stain on his record that would probably end bad  for him when he is running. Before i forget they should run a Green Energy campaign if they follow through with what they say its a win win for the American people and job growth democratic party can get the foot in the door into getting congress back.
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The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 1:22 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 6, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by brewer - February 6, 2017 at 11:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 12:27 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by brewer - February 7, 2017 at 10:56 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 6, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 6, 2017 at 2:44 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Divinity - February 6, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DarkerEnergy - February 6, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Jackalope - February 6, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 6, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 6, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 6, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by CapnAwesome - February 7, 2017 at 3:23 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crossless1 - February 7, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 7, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 7, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 8, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Pat Mustard - February 8, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 9, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 9, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 8, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 8, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 9, 2017 at 5:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 9, 2017 at 8:45 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 10, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 10, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 10, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 10, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 10, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 10, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 11, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 11, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:11 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 10, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Pat Mustard - February 13, 2017 at 6:20 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Pat Mustard - February 15, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 10, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Regina - February 10, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 10, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Regina - February 10, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 10, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 12:03 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 11, 2017 at 12:31 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 11, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 11, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 11, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 12, 2017 at 11:48 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by ReptilianPeon - February 11, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Autumnlicious - February 11, 2017 at 3:13 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 12, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 13, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 16, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 21, 2017 at 8:05 pm

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