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The sad future of the democratic party
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RE: The sad future of the democratic party
(February 6, 2017 at 2:07 pm)dyresand Wrote: I get it but the democrats had such a easy person to beat but the problem here is i wouldn't really have seen much of a difference in picks when it comes to Hillary winning.
Either or we would have been off in a bad situation we would escalate in Syria that was one of HRC's plans. But i didn't vote for her i did that out of good conscious would i have liked her to win now that  i look at it yes. I want the democratic party to do good i agree with Cory Booker but at the same time we need cheaper and affordable medication NAFTA definitely should be renegotiated to get some jobs back not all (just being realistic) and TPP should never exist. But this the democratic party as it stands is just one huge shit show because they have taken money and use lobbyists to get what they want done. If Cory Book ran in 2020 i don't think he will win but if he really want's to win he should go back on what he did for affordable medication it will improve his chances of winning a probable 2020 election because the good things you do now withing the 4 years of a Trump administration matters. Cory Booker like Obama can talk a smooth game but he has to back it up with things he does now within 4 years you can call repealing cheaper medication a shit stain on his record that would probably end bad  for him when he is running.

Good lawd. I will attempt to decipher the 3rd grade grammar in this shit show of a post in order to address your points. I mean, you are a fucking adult person dyre. Come on.

People in the Democratic party are really quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and you are a prime example. Clinton wanted to take a hard line in Syria, okay. I disagreed with here there, and so did most of her presumptive intelligence officials. The guy in office is threatening action against Iran and North Korea, the entire UN, many of our closest allies, and there was all of the messaging there before the election to suggest that this was inevitable.

NAFTA and TPP are flawed, so fuck them, huh? The usual line about jobs escaping to Mexico means that the clear net overall economic impact being positive because of cheaper goods, better competition, and skyrocketing trade should be fucked off? We can try and renegotiate NAFTA but you are being sold a bill of goods about manufacturing jobs. They are going away because of technology, automation, and modularization. I have seen this directly in the automotive industry in which I work. Doesn't have shit to do with Mexico or China. As far as TPP goes, it was very flawed, but the worst thing we could do is completely withdraw. In doing so, our ability to negotiate and dictate terms with China has been crippled. But as long as most of America couldn't tell you what TPP even stands for but they know it's bad bad bad, we are out of it and we can applaud our supreme leader.

Once again you do not understand the political necessity of lobbying. (EDIT: This should have read "the political necessity of dealing with lobbying.") If you are going to throw out any Democrat who accepts money from lobbyists, you are going to have zero Democrats left, unless you account the Dem "Approved" lobbies like Weed Legalization and the ACLU. Regardless, lobbying and PACs are a part of congress. Support local politicians who are intent on Campaign Finance Reform and stop haranguing people who are forced to play the game as it's played or else you will end up with a supermajority of Republicans who don't give a fuck about your sensibilities.

The point is, you can't have change unless you are in the position to make it, and your irrational rejection of anyone who someone on Twitter tells you to hate is only going to make you the Republicans' bitch, and they are loving it. Kudos to them. I don't know whether it is smarts or an inability or refusal to dig deep, but keeping people in power while Liberals whine at how imperfect their candidates are and undermine their ability to win elections is a good plan ensure your agenda survives.
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The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 1:22 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 6, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by brewer - February 6, 2017 at 11:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 12:27 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by brewer - February 7, 2017 at 10:56 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 6, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 6, 2017 at 2:44 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Divinity - February 6, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DarkerEnergy - February 6, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Jackalope - February 6, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 6, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 6, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 6, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by CapnAwesome - February 7, 2017 at 3:23 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crossless1 - February 7, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 7, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 7, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 8, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Pat Mustard - February 8, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 9, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 9, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 8, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 8, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 9, 2017 at 5:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 9, 2017 at 8:45 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 10, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 10, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 10, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 10, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 10, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 10, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 11, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 11, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:11 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 10, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Pat Mustard - February 13, 2017 at 6:20 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Pat Mustard - February 15, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 10, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Regina - February 10, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 10, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Regina - February 10, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 10, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 12:03 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 11, 2017 at 12:31 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 11, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 11, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 11, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 12, 2017 at 11:48 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by ReptilianPeon - February 11, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Autumnlicious - February 11, 2017 at 3:13 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 12, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 13, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 16, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 21, 2017 at 8:05 pm

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