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"The Arrival" (Spoiler Free(cause I haven't seen it))
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RE: "The Arrival" (Spoiler Free(cause I haven't seen it))
(February 6, 2017 at 5:30 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well I was trying to make a point. Ultimately morality is not about what people would choose it's about what they should choose. But people can only choose what they would choose regardless of if they should hence why morality is overrate.
Okay...but....that might be inconvenient in light of some of the rest of this......?

Quote:Nah the question is: Are they right?
Good question, are they....and what empowers you to make that determination...or to doubt their own conclusions?  

Quote:Well... I would desire happiness in spite of toothache but I'd be wrong to desire it in spite of toothache.
Why?

Quote:That is... unless I'm not suffering during the toothache.
Intresting, why does that change the dynamic...and does than then lead to the notiopn that pople with good dental care are somehow "more moral" or "less immoral" or more strongly amoral...by virtue of having better dental care (and hygiene) with respect to life and suffering and the relative value or asymmetry of either?  

Quote:If I'm in pain but still otherwise happy that doesn't really count.
You think?  So why then would....-

Quote:But pain that is so bad that it makes me unhappy=suffering=not worth any amount of happiness.
-count...and for what? Personally, I'll burn today for a buzz tomorrow......what's the problem? I mean...almost everything I have that's worth having came on the back of considerable and prolonged suffering....it;s not exactly like we're giving the good shit away for free, Ham....?

Bankruptcy...everyone should do it.

Divorce, I recommend it.

Heartbreak...well, you only live once.

Hunger - it gives you perspective.

Homelessness is another word for unexpected freedom.

Physical trauma...how better to realize that you're alive?


I could go on and on....but..tell me why I, like "they" above, may be wrong for seeing...in all of lifes little speedbumps, reasons to seek and be happy ? The short version, ofc, being "show us on the doll where life touched you". Wink
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RE: "The Arrival" (Spoiler Free(cause I haven't seen it)) - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2017 at 5:34 pm

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