RE: What makes your faith true?
February 9, 2017 at 2:08 am
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2017 at 2:34 am by Godscreated.)
(February 8, 2017 at 4:10 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: OK I guess we got little bit sidetracked, started talking about the Bible.
The truth is I got a burning question to which you'll probably had an answer. So back when you said:
(January 28, 2017 at 1:11 am)Godschild Wrote:
So to you it seems people that believe in all other gods and think they talk to them are delusional because Christ is one true god for one reason or another, but if that is the case then why is it when Christians are talking to Jesus they all seem to hear different things?
Delusional, that covers a broad spectrum, I would say miss lead is the proper term.
We hear different things because we are individuals with different questions. Not all Christians hear from God they pray for what they desire and then proceed to make it happen, God doesn't work in that manner.
FM Wrote:I mean you're Baptist and you probably think that the Pope is a fake Christian and I think it's safe to say that you heard at least from some people in your congregation referring to the Pope even as an Antichrist.
I do not know the Pope's heart, that's between him and God. No one in any church I've belonged to has said the Pope's the Antichrist.
FM Wrote:And Catholics, like all other Christian denominations, are wrong and delusional, although they all claim to talk to Jesus. So their Jesus is fake while your Jesus is real? I mean how do you reason with that?
I know many Catholics and I believe I'll see them in heaven. You are repeating far to many rumors.
FM Wrote:If Jesus really does make himself known to many of his followers by voice, sight, or feeling as is often claimed, then why is there so much conflict within Christianity about true revelations versus false revelations, true prophets versus false prophets, and scriptural meaning?
As far as I know Jesus doesn't use any of the three methods you implied to communicate with people. Christ communicates with us most often through the scriptures and prayer, on occasion He will speak to the Christian through our spirit, it's why man was given a spirit. As for true vs false prophets and revelation the Bible clearly defines how we are to know them, anything that falls outside the Bibles criteria is false. Those who define scripture outside of what it actually says probably have self centered ideas.
FM Wrote:Wouldn't the most reasonable answer be that they're all delusional and all Christians are just making up stuff in their heads when they think they're talking to Jesus because they all seem to hear different things since the are like 41000 Christian denominations (source)?
Not really, there are people who claim to be Christians just to make money off those who will not study the Bible and find out they ate charlatans. Others want to get ahead of God in doing Christian work because they are full of zeal, instead of studying the Bible and learning how God works. Others want to be noticed and do some silly things before they learn how God works. Then some just want to be seen and others want to tell God what should be done, see Christians have flaws just like everyone else, the difference is we are forgiven. The problem with many Christian is they don't read and study the Bible, they're lazy like you and do not take the time to learn. If you were to read the Bible you might not need to ask all these questions.
GC
(February 8, 2017 at 3:54 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(February 7, 2017 at 8:34 am)Godschild Wrote:
But isn't torture of Jesus culmination of all inanities and violence of the Old Testament? I mean here you have a God that can't just forgive humans because in the past some guy ate from a wrong tree (who probably never even existed according to scientific observations) thereby condemning future generations of Jews to pogroms and persecution as 'Christ-killers'. We're talking about millions of people that have been killed because of NT.
If God wanted to forgive our sins, why not just forgive them and skip the sadomasochism?
Like I've said you need to read and study the Bible and you might not have to ask so many questions.
What Adam and Eve did was disobey God this is sin, sin is not just doing bad things, it's defying the creator who created the universe and all that's in it, God has providence over everyone and everything, He owns it all because He made it. Every wrong action is against God and is sin sin that needs to be forgiven, who God is determines what sin is, all sin.
I would go over why there had to be blood sacrifices but, you are trying to tell me what Christianity is about, you said you were asking questions to learn, telling the instructor is not a try at learning. By the way there are no scientific observations about Adam and Eve, if you believe that not only do you need to study the Bible it wouldn't hurt for you to freshen up on some science,too.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.