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National Service
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RE: National Service
(February 9, 2017 at 1:25 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: As an 18 year old I would've taken any job I could get.  I'm not objecting on the grounds that it sounds like a bad deal for the people that accept it, I'm objecting to the huge expansion of the federal government and the cycle it would create.  The people that grow up relying on the gov't can only keep the things they've been relying upon if they then work for the federal government.
We rely on the federal government for those things regardless...by definition..since we're talking about a national healthcare system, for example (and is that a bad thing...why?).  Would the creation of a single payer healthcare system, in your estimation, "create a cycle"? More on this below.

Quote:I just don't think it's part of the government's job to be that huge a part of everyone's lives - even creating situations that are 'too good to refuse.'

Too good to refuse is a step up from creepy, I'm gonna call that progress.  

So, understanding that we rely on federal programs for this or that service...and assuming that there are at least some programs where you think our federal government should do more (there are, aren't there?)...does it not then follow that we would, somehow, have to make provisions so that said federal government was even -capable- of doing more, in those areas?  

Have you heard, for example, of the bottleneck on environmental cases?  That there simply isn't enough manpower to process them, in addition to the regular defunding (which of course reduces available manpower and the ability to outsource the same)? Or perhaps of healthcare providers who can accept no more patients...not enough time in the day for their manpower to handle?
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National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 10:08 am
RE: National Service - by Jackalope - February 9, 2017 at 10:12 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: National Service - by Jackalope - February 9, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:12 am
RE: National Service - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: National Service - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2017 at 10:13 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: National Service - by downbeatplumb - February 9, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: National Service - by ukatheist - February 9, 2017 at 10:13 am
RE: National Service - by Mister Agenda - February 9, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: National Service - by Jesster - February 9, 2017 at 10:15 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: National Service - by Jesster - February 9, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: National Service - by Rhondazvous - February 9, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: National Service - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: National Service - by ukatheist - February 9, 2017 at 10:22 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: National Service - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2017 at 10:26 am
RE: National Service - by ukatheist - February 9, 2017 at 10:26 am
RE: National Service - by Jesster - February 9, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: National Service - by Jesster - February 9, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:35 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: National Service - by downbeatplumb - February 11, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: National Service - by ukatheist - February 9, 2017 at 10:37 am
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RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:49 am
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RE: National Service - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 10:53 am
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RE: National Service - by Faith No More - February 9, 2017 at 11:02 am
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RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 11:09 am
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RE: National Service - by Alex K - February 9, 2017 at 11:27 am
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RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 11:23 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 11:25 am
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RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: National Service - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2017 at 12:03 pm
RE: National Service - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2017 at 12:07 pm
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 12:09 pm
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RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: National Service - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: National Service - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: National Service - by Thumpalumpacus - February 9, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 12:34 pm
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RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2017 at 1:53 pm
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RE: National Service - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm
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RE: National Service - by ukatheist - February 9, 2017 at 3:27 pm
RE: National Service - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2017 at 3:39 pm
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RE: National Service - by The Valkyrie - February 9, 2017 at 10:48 pm
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RE: National Service - by Sterben - February 10, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: National Service - by Sterben - February 11, 2017 at 1:30 am
RE: National Service - by Cato - February 10, 2017 at 3:32 am
RE: National Service - by Alex K - February 10, 2017 at 5:53 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 11, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2017 at 12:26 am
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2017 at 1:37 am
RE: National Service - by Sterben - February 12, 2017 at 12:16 am
RE: National Service - by Thumpalumpacus - February 12, 2017 at 12:56 pm
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2017 at 12:27 pm
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RE: National Service - by account_inactive - February 12, 2017 at 3:36 am
RE: National Service - by Cato - February 12, 2017 at 10:36 am
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RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: National Service - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2017 at 11:46 am
RE: National Service - by Sterben - February 13, 2017 at 12:25 am
RE: National Service - by Alex K - February 13, 2017 at 1:05 am
RE: National Service - by JackRussell - February 13, 2017 at 2:07 pm
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