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Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
(February 13, 2017 at 6:25 pm)Aroura Wrote:
(February 13, 2017 at 6:00 pm)SteveII Wrote: God does have free will but in addition is morally perfect and therefore not capable of sin. Moral perfection is a property of God alone (involves omniscience) so a created being would have to be less than morally perfect and therefore would not have the properties necessary to infallibly choose good.

So the question remains.....why would a morally perfect being with free will not create other morally perfect beings, also with free will?  Are you saying he cannot?  So he's not Omnipotent.  And where do you get this idea that it's a property of God alone, based on what?  Would he just be jelous, since he would essentially be creating other gods, and he wanted inferior worshipers?

Do angels have free will?  How come they do not suffer and die? They are clearly not morally perfect, and they have free will.  Why make mortals at all, why not a universe full of angels that do not have to suffer the same way mortals do?  Angels get into heaven without having to go through the supposed choice test suffering BS that is mortal life on earth, please explain.

I don't think creating another morally perfect being is possible. Since for God to create a being which would infallibly choose good would be to create a copy of himself, that does not seem to be logically possible.

Angels appear to have free will. They were created to serve God. No indication that they grow, learn, love, nor are beings capable of relationships, etc. so therefore not an option to achieve what God achieved with humans.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world? - by SteveII - February 13, 2017 at 7:37 pm

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