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Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged
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RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged
(February 13, 2017 at 7:02 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I've long been an advocate of nonviolent protest. It seems to me to be very effective, and I see lots of downsides to using violent means, not least of which that it seems to generate free publicity for whoever the people resorting to violence are against.

But what I'm hearing when I try to promote that kind of protest/resistance against oppression is that it's my white cis-male privilege speaking. I'm not the designated target, not obviously in an endangered group, so it's easy for me to say 'stay disciplined, don't let yourself be provoked to violence, it only serves your enemies.'

I suppose it IS easy for me to say and that I don't face the same kind of danger and don't have the same anger and fear. I acknowledge that. But it doesn't mean I'm wrong. But something else might.

Should I revisit my stance on nonviolence? Is it passé in the current situation? I don't think the people advocating violence are making much sense, does anyone else get it? I'm not asking if violence is justified, if someone is screaming in your face about what they're going to do to people like you once the law is on their side, punching them in the face may not be legal or strategic, but I'm not going to tell you they didn't deserve it or you don't deserve to do it. But I think opposing them in other ways is smarter and that hitting them is counter-productive to your aims. Am I wrong?

It depends on so many factors.  Who is the person protesting, what are they protesting against, what other possible methods of protesting could be more useful, how useful will violence be in the long run.  What could be the best possible outcome.

Protesting is something that's been done in so many different contexts and can be done in future in so many possible contexts, asking if non violent protest is good or bad is like asking if it's good to drink liquid or not.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 13, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 13, 2017 at 7:20 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Crunchy - February 13, 2017 at 7:44 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Crunchy - February 13, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 13, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by paulpablo - February 13, 2017 at 7:42 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Amarok - February 14, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Amarok - February 14, 2017 at 2:42 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Jesster - February 14, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by paulpablo - February 14, 2017 at 10:40 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 14, 2017 at 10:37 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 14, 2017 at 10:45 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 14, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Crunchy - February 16, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 14, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Exian - February 14, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 14, 2017 at 5:56 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 14, 2017 at 6:04 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 14, 2017 at 6:15 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by paulpablo - February 15, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by paulpablo - February 15, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by paulpablo - February 16, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by brewer - February 15, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Crunchy - February 16, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Crunchy - February 16, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Crunchy - February 21, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Crunchy - February 16, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by Amarok - February 16, 2017 at 11:58 pm
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by paulpablo - February 17, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Nonviolent Protest and Resistance Privileged - by abaris - February 17, 2017 at 2:39 pm

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