RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis
February 14, 2017 at 12:04 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2017 at 12:33 pm by Won2blv.)
(February 14, 2017 at 7:40 am)bennyboy Wrote:(February 14, 2017 at 4:12 am)Won2blv Wrote: I think that the center of my theory is that our consciousness is our oldest evolutionary system. Whatever makes us, "living" is our consciousness. It was obviously very, very, very, rudimentary in the early stages, but so was the eye and the heart.What is the critical mass or evolutionary moment at which non-conscious goes to conscious, in your view? What's the most primitive system, structure or event that can be conscious?
I know this definitely sounds like woo. But just think about it with an open mind, if my theory that consciousness is as old as life itself, then that means consciousness is what centers us to the very earliest organism.
In my view, humans are like Bill Murray in Groundhog day. They just started realizing that because life kept repeating, they could starting honing more and more specialized skills. Especially when humans invented ways to take knowledge from the immaterial, to the material like writing, they were able to grow even more. Bill Murray is stuck in the loop but he can't explain it to anyone, because he is the only one with the experience to comprehend it
(February 14, 2017 at 8:00 am)DLJ Wrote:(February 14, 2017 at 4:12 am)Won2blv Wrote: ...
I think that the center of my theory is that our consciousness is our oldest evolutionary system. Whatever makes us, "living" is our consciousness. It was obviously very, very, very, rudimentary in the early stages, but so was the eye and the heart.
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That all depends on what one considers consciousness to be. I think you need to decide upon a working definition.
Yes, its roots are in the early molecular structures that formed proto-cells (everything is) but consciousness as a system (of pattern recognition and event detection) is a fairly recent evolutionary adaptation.
That is what I'm saying though, It doesn't matter how concise or how abstract you get with your definition. Whatever you think your conscious is, is an evolutionary advancement billions of years in the making
(February 14, 2017 at 8:10 am)chimp3 Wrote: @won2blv:
You are summarizing evolutionary theory and neuroscience. Why is this your hypothesis? You make interesting points but they are echoing current science findings.
I expect you to be skeptical of this statement, but please just hypothetically believe its true. I thought of all of this in just the past 5 or 6 days. I am not college educated, I was one of Jehovah's witnesses up until last year that didn't believe in evolution, and I wash windows for a living. I had never heard of Attention Schema Theory or any of the periphery around it.
I am not claiming that there is a damn thing special about me or my specific brain. Our brains our like software. Humans are still on software version 1, but each human is an even more specific subset. So for whatever reason, because, I am version 1.34958539290b my brain was able to untangle this subject in a short amount of time.