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Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
(February 14, 2017 at 2:32 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(February 14, 2017 at 2:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: You say there is no evidence for Free Will. Isn't your conclusion that there is no Free Will based on naturalism--a philosophical position, and not based on science or other concrete 'evidence'? Why should I believe your ideology that there is nothing but natural properties and causes when I have very good reason to suspect there is more than that? In case you are going to ask what are my reasons, I would reply that Naturalism does not address why:

a. God is the best explanation why anything at all exists.
b. God is the best explanation of the origin of the universe.
c. God is the best explanation of the fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.
d. God is the best explanation of intentional states of consciousness.
e. God is the best explanation of objective moral values and duties.

Those are some bold assertions. Got anything other than fantasy magic to back them up?

It was not my intention to hijack the thread with one or more Natural Theology arguments. I was questioning the reasoning Aroura used to conclude there is no evidence that Free Will exists. It seems to me that that is a metaphysical claim based on an assumption of Naturalism--which, in the absence of other reasons, is just begging the question.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world? - by SteveII - February 14, 2017 at 3:06 pm

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