(February 19, 2017 at 11:42 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:Well, all I would tell you is that your first objection is what is called an apparent contradiction, of which there are many. But apparent contradictions are "apparent", not real contradictions. Keep in mind that the Biblical texts were written by different individuals and were not collected into a book until many years later, so it wasn't as if someone got them together and edited them so that everything matched up tightly. In fact, this is one reason why historical scholars tend to give considerable veracity to the Biblical documents, as historical documents. The kind of apparent contradiction you cite is exactly what you'd expect if people were writing an account of the same event from different perspectives. Christ had both male and female followers or disciples. So to say that a couple of women found the empty tomb versus a couple of disciples is no contradiction, if we're talking about acouple of Christ's female disciples.(February 19, 2017 at 11:36 pm)Odoital77 Wrote: I'm not aware of contradictory bits or those which have been disproven scientifically. For example, I don't hold to a literal 6 day creation view. The Bible is filled with multiple kinds of literature written from various perspectives, both gentile and Jew, which have to be taken into account. Most of the time, when I run into apparent contradictions or asserted scientific disproofs, I'm usually looking at misapprehensions on the part of the objector or worse, outright straw men that the objector knows to be false characterizations of the Christian point of view or my point of view. So I really would have to ask for some kind of clarification as to what you mean, specifically?
One contradiction is the witnesses to the empty tomb. One source, I believe, is a couple of women, in another it's a couple of disciples. The book had bad editors.
Things that have been disproved? Genesis. The Flood. Exodus.
There are just too many to list here.
With regard to most of the rest, I would simply remind you that an absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Many things were still true states of affairs even when we had no evidence for them. For example, the Earth was still revolving around the sun long before we knew anything about astronomy. With regard to the flood narrative, there is evidence for that, depending upon how you take the story and date it. Many cultures have global flood stories, which could count as evidence of some fain historical memory of a long ago event. In addition, the sense in which the flood was global can be different. If water covered all of the land where human beings were, rather than all of the earth, from the perspective of the humans, it would have been covering the whole earth. And keep in mind that you're reading this account. The literature has to be taken seriously. We often use hyperbolic language to describe extraordinary events. What if I was watching a baseball game and I was describing an exceptionally speedy fastball by saying, "he's throwing that ball like a million miles and hour!" I obviously wouldn't mean that the ball was traveling at a speed of 1,000,000 miles per hour. In any case, depending upon how you understand the "global nature" of the flood, there is evidence for it. And at the very least, it has not be proven false in any case. There are books and people who address these topics. I would encourage you to look into them further. You may find far fewer contradictions and disproofs than you actually believe exist. In fact, I'm certain of it.
In His Grip,
Odoital77
~ "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C. S. Lewis, Is Theology Poetry?
Odoital77
~ "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C. S. Lewis, Is Theology Poetry?