(February 23, 2017 at 10:36 am)HairyCyclist Wrote:(February 23, 2017 at 9:45 am)SteveII Wrote: Except you are grossly mischaracterizing Christianity's doctrine on humans to make your point (straw man). The correct view is that God sees humans of infinite worth and so warranted the ultimate sacrifice of death on a cross to redeem them. Not exactly teaching that we are "worthless sinners" is it? So the disrespect you are feeling is of your own making and of course is not causing "harm".
I think we both know that's bullshit Steve, Christianity's doctrine relies on people viewing themselves and others as being in someway sinful or unworthy, otherwise we wouldn't have needed the scapegoat sacrifice to save our souls.
Starting by describing my response as "bullshit" -- you haven't gotten the hang of a respectful conversation yet I see.
Before it was to characterize us all as "worthless sinners". Now you have modified to "sinful or unworthy". The former speaks to value and the latter speaks to a current condition. You are heading in the right direction. Two things:
1. Presuming you are a naturalist, my worldview teaches that humans have more value than yours does.
2. My worldview believes in a Holy God and therefore, by comparison, the human condition is sinful and unworthy.
So I restate: the disrespect you are feeling is of your own making and of course is not causing "harm".
