(February 24, 2017 at 7:44 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(February 17, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Lek Wrote: So you're saying that the writer of Matthew, who was writing this gospel after the passing of the apostles generation, is saying that the world should have already ended? I really think that he would have to be smarter than that and make up something different.
Why do you think he should be smarter than that? Really why when it is obvious that writer of Matthew didn't even read the book of Isaiah, epsecially Isaiah 7:14: "Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."
Jesus was never referred to as Immanuel, especially not in "Matthew". Not to mention mother-to-be is described as almah (maiden), not bethulah (virgin). Name is probably the most noticeable failure of the prophecy stated in "Isaiah" others are: "He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel." "He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem." "He must bring world peace." "He must be a member of the tribe of Judah"
So I don't think that writer of Matthew is smarter then he appears but that Christians are very gullible and self deceiving.
You're taking Isaiah 7:14 out of context. If you read the context it's clear that it can't be talking about Jesus Christ even if Isaiah used the name "Jesus" instead of "Immanuel."
Prophecies are given for a reason. The reason for this one? It's like this:
The king is worried that advancing armies will sack his city (spoiler alert: they will). Isaiah says to not worry, and to even seek a sign from God to confirm this. The king refuses, presumably because such a thing would violate Deuteronomy 6:16 (or perhaps in reality, since Deuteronomy wasn't written until King Josiah "found it" (i.e. invented it as a revisionist), and that is why Isaiah didn't know he was having God contradict himself... but I digress...), but Isaiah says that a sign will be given anyway: behold, a "virgin" will give birth to a child, and before the child is old enough to know good from evil, the king's enemies will be vanquished.
So... am I misreading this or isn't it the case that the prophecy must succeed or fail within the king's lifetime? Or at the absolute least, within the lifetime of the nations that are named? How in the absolute fuck can this be about the bastard child born in a barn?
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.