(March 6, 2017 at 3:07 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(March 6, 2017 at 2:35 pm)SteveII Wrote: First, I'm not sure you know the meaning of masochistic.
Second, both we and God are eternal beings. One eternal being rejecting another has..guess what...eternal consequences. While you complain that is unjust, what is your reasoning that it is unjust?
It is unjust because, this god only gives us about 70 or so years, with minimal or no evidence, contradictory ancient texts, thousands of competing gods, etc, etc, to figure it out.
Then he has the audacity to claim that it was our choice.
Sorry, but if he wanted a just system for us to choose him, he shouldn't have created one that relies to much on gullibility.
Billions of people alive right this minute have discovered him not difficult to find. You exaggerate the hurdles to boost your point. We are hardwired to believe in the supernatural, he is evident in the natural world, if you do hear his message from the NT, it is compelling to so many (that tells you something), and if you have not heard the gospel message, he will judge you based on your response to what has been revealed to you.
A distinction you might have missed is that God wants a person to admit on the inside that he/she is incomplete and in need of a relationship with God. That relationship has been made possible thought the plan of salvation outlined in the NT. It is the desire of this relationship and the change that goes on in your heart that has to be the draw to God. If it took personal appearances and big flashy miracles, a choice to believe in God would be based on other things and not the necessary internal desire to change/have relationship.
