(March 5, 2017 at 3:48 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: OK I know that you'll say that logic and religion don't go together but there must be something that religious people use to rationalize this very central reason why most of them bother with religion.Because it is about being with God.
Quote:So, what would be the point of creating this world only to test people here to see if they'll go to heaven or hell?That the thing not all are tested, some are the tests. Heaven or Hell is not a good or bad person thing. it is a redemption thing.
Quote:Looking at popular belief (and not strictly the scriptures) of who goes where : the killers, thieves, gluttonous and rapists get denied of heaven and are sentenced to hell - but why?Only because they are unrepentant. No other reason.
Quote:Because when you get to heaven you are immortal and if you can't die - nobody can kill you;That's not true.
After the judment, Christ will reign for 1000 years. after this 1000 years satan will be released to tempt those who were ruled under christ once again sparking unrest leading to a further seperation of the sheeps and goats wheat and weeds. Meaning there are those who make the first judgement but fail to live forever.
Quote: if everybody has everything - why bother stealing?That is kinda the reason for streets of gold and pearl lined gates. When our most precious things become common building material then our value system is over turned. That again is the point. At the heart of stealing is coveting what your neighbor has, and wanting it for yourself. If heaven is not about things it them will be about position and who you are with/to God.
Quote:; if you don't have to eat because you're a ghost and already dead - so what if you were gluttonousBeing a glutton is not even mentioned in the bible as being a sin.
Quote:?; and if everybody is lacking genitals then nobody can rape anybody.where does the bible say that?
Quote:What am I missing here? Does anyone have an answer to this?maybe study beyond the limits of your understanding of religion and you current muslim understanding of an after life.
Quote:Perhaps there could be made a case that this construction of life after death is damaging to society because it gives felons some sort of supernatural dimension of evil and therefore society is reluctant to help not only to renovate these people but make society a better place. If we take that most crime is driven by poverty, injustice and least of all mental illness then in better societies there is less crime.
