RE: What is the logic in "life after death"?
March 6, 2017 at 4:56 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2017 at 5:09 pm by Simon Moon.)
(March 6, 2017 at 4:18 pm)SteveII Wrote:(March 6, 2017 at 3:07 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: It is unjust because, this god only gives us about 70 or so years, with minimal or no evidence, contradictory ancient texts, thousands of competing gods, etc, etc, to figure it out.
Then he has the audacity to claim that it was our choice.
Sorry, but if he wanted a just system for us to choose him, he shouldn't have created one that relies to much on gullibility.
Billions of people alive right this minute have discovered him not difficult to find. You exaggerate the hurdles to boost your point.
Please let me know how to discover your god without my having to appeal to fallacious arguments (like ad populum fallacy, in the first sentence in your response), insufficient demonstrable evidence, and lack of reasoned argument.
Far from exaggeration. I could list paragraphs of legitimate hurdles that have to be overcome for me to justify belief.
Quote:We are hardwired to believe in the supernatural, he is evident in the natural world, if you do hear his message from the NT, it is compelling to so many (that tells you something), and if you have not heard the gospel message, he will judge you based on your response to what has been revealed to you.
No, we are hardwired to be pattern seeking beings and agency detectors. This hardwiring translates to belief in the supernatural.
There is no evidence in the natural world other than the natural. Our pattern seeking and exaggerated agency detection superimposes gods over the natural world.
Quote:A distinction you might have missed is that God wants a person to admit on the inside that he/she is incomplete and in need of a relationship with God. That relationship has been made possible thought the plan of salvation outlined in the NT. It is the desire of this relationship and the change that goes on in your heart that has to be the draw to God. If it took personal appearances and big flashy miracles, a choice to believe in God would be based on other things and not the necessary internal desire to change/have relationship.
I am well aware of the dogma and doctrine.
How would I go about accepting any of what you state above, without first believing that this god exists? Sorry, but I am not susceptible to circular logic.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
