(March 9, 2017 at 4:44 pm)abaris Wrote:Oh, I get that it matters. I've seen studies that show the taller candidates almost always win. Deep voices, tans, a better hair also matter a lot to most voters.(March 9, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Aroura Wrote: I know this is the healthcare thread, but sinc it's kinda getting derailed into "who's fault is it?", I'd just like to say that although there is blame to go around, The white nationalist/supremecist/alt-right gaining a voice in a major political party is a big, big deal.
What you all fail to realize is that this is indeed like American Idol. Only a select few look for programs or issues before casting their votes. Most people follow their gut feelings. And that's what made this possible, as well as all the rightwing populists in Europe.
I followed what people had to say after we barely fended off our very own rightwing candidate for the presidency. They were saying, he looks so nice or he says what has to be said. Asked for what he stands for they came up empty.
That's what the parties have to learn. If they want to win, they have to appeal. Boring doesn't cut it against extremists. Extremists incite their followers whilst moderates tend to stay at home. And this will continue as long as the opposition doesn't present something equally exciting. This was already on the horizon when Obama won his first election. His repeated slogan was change, change, change. That's what most people want one way or the other. They are all fed up with the status quo and the rightwingers make use of that sentiment by presenting their scapegoats and their fear mongering. The other side just sits there on their old programs of more of the same. And they obviously don't learn from defeat.
So, unless someone arises from the ranks who can represent the sentiment of change and put up a believable facade, this will continue.
I always laugh at people who think that voters will learn from their mistakes. They won't. Until it's too late. They will always be presented with new scapegoats to blame all the failures on. And they will swallow that message like manna from heaven. That's why we may find the twitter outbursts of Trump ridiculous. His followers gobble the bullshit up and ask for a second helping.
So, more of the same won't cut it. Someone has to come up with a believable candidate carrying a believable and exciting message.
Charisma, essentially. We could run the very best candidate ever, but if that person is short, has a hunch, balding, is pale or has a high voice, we are fucked! Oh also, we need better slogans. Apparently, that swayed a LOT of so called undecideds.
Sometimes I really hate humans.
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