RE: Have you read the good book?
March 10, 2017 at 3:25 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2017 at 3:28 pm by Harry Nevis.)
(March 10, 2017 at 11:58 am)Drich Wrote:(March 10, 2017 at 11:28 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Yeah, I remember something Jesus said about "Blessed are the retards" or "The morons will inherit the earth" or something like that.
That's how shallow christianity is. You can insult and degrade people and claim you were only being christ-like.
Some morality.
And if it's not about morality?
I'm sure it's not with you. Wanting to give "the gift of hell" showed that pretty well.
Your religion is just a convenient club for wield on people you look down on. You're a small-minded individual, made smaller by ranting and claims you know god.
(March 10, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 10, 2017 at 2:22 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: And yet no evidence has been presented. You keep brining up Aquinas's 5 ways as though they were evidence in some way, they aren't.
With respect to Aquinas, the demonstrations are based on common observations, i.e. things about the world that are 'evident'. That's what evidence means. It is evident that beings can persist despite changes (1W). It is evident that efficient causes are essentially ordered (2W. It is evident that there is something rather than nothing (3W). It is evident that some things better instantiate their kind (4W). It is evident that causes have regular effects (5W). More recently, I have been mentioning other things that are evident: the natural instinct of humans to believe, apprehension one's self in relation to being-as-such, and cross-cultural consistency in mystical experiences of the divine. All that counts as evidence. I can appreciate if you feel the evidence does not support my conclusion, but that's not the same thing as claiming "no evidence."
And putting the word, "evident" in quotes says it all.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam