RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 6:53 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2017 at 7:03 pm by PETE_ROSE.)
(March 15, 2017 at 5:24 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Better question is: what would dissuade you from your religion? If you're a Christian and let's say you somehow got in possession of time machine and you went into the past like 2000 years and you saw Jesus being crucified, but that he didn't resurrect and you see it with your eyes his disciples making it up, would you still believe?
Or if you went in the same time period and you saw bunch of guys claiming they're messiah, but they all look fake, so Jesus from the Bible never existed and you saw people making him up by mixing all sorts of mythologies, would you still believe?
Would I still believe? Of course not. Christianity's lynchpin is the resurrection of Christ. But I completely disagree that you posed a better question. I think the term found here most often is strawman argument.
I would flip the question to you sir and ask if in your time machine travels you observed the crucifixion and resurrection would you change your beliefs? I understand you would be forced to acknowledge the truth and evidence you would be confronted with; but would you change your worldview or faith or more specifically your relationship with God?
(March 15, 2017 at 5:38 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: An argument for atheism? Hmmm…. I’ll go with divine hiddenness. When I was an atheist, I found the silence of God in response to earnest prayer troubling.
What? You sir, were an atheist? I thought all of us were indoctrinated and brainwashed as children. Surely you must be a desperate, emotionally clingy, special snowflake, science denying, math illiterate rube to have left enlightenment and come to the dark side. ?
I concur that divine hiddenness would be near the top of the list. Thank you for your input.
(March 15, 2017 at 6:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: When I was a theist, the most compelling argument I ever heard for atheism was, "Read the bible fully."
I did. It worked.
What specifically stood out to you? Doesn't have to be anything comprehensive, just the top 5 or 6 things that come to mind?