RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 8:50 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2017 at 8:51 pm by Simon Moon.)
(March 15, 2017 at 8:07 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:(March 15, 2017 at 10:18 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: For this thread let us lump all denominations of atheism, agnosticism, and soft non deistic worldviews into one.
Feel free to state your best argument or compelling reasons.
From my talking with other atheists the most common road to deconversion is a read of the bible. Most christians don't read the book (remember for the first 1,300 years it was verboten for all laypeople to read it), only listen to the bits the priest/minister/reverend/pastor reads out on a Sunday.
The actual contents is like a bucket of ice water to the face.
(March 15, 2017 at 7:26 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: I would be interested in hearing 4 or 5 of the archaeological refutations or inaccuracies that you are making reference to. Thank you in advance for sharing.
The town mentioned in the Legion myth is thirty miles east of where it needs to be for that one to work. Jews were never mass enslaved in Egypt, in fact they never left Iudea (they were a sub tribe of the Canaanites, in fact the most reliable way to find the earliest recorded passages of the OT is to look at which ones still depict yhwh as part of the Canaanite pantheon, hence genesis 2 is oder than Genesis 1). A corollorary to that is the forty years in the desert, an arthritic granny sucking an oxygen tank will walk the Sinai in a couple of weeks. The fossil records refutes both creation myths, the observed shape of the earth refutes the shape in the bible (i.e. it's not flat). Nazareth wasn't a town or village between c250 BCE and 400 CE.
That's six off the top of my head.
Okay, you got me sucked in.
Archeologists are able to find older remnants of smaller groups of people in harsher conditions than those the Bible reports of the Exodus, yet nothing from the Sinai.
The Bible says there were 600,000 able bodied men. Then there were about equal number of women of the same age. Then the elderly, the children, and "the multitudes" that were not Hebrews. That has got to be at least 2 million.
Funny thing is, there were only about 3 to 3.5 million total population in Egypt at the time. 2 million leaving would have caused a financial collapse of Egypt. Nope, nothing, nada, zilch, zip. Egypt did just fine without 2/3 of their population leaving at one time.
The Bible claims the Exodus happened in one day. How did all the Hebrews get notified, packed, and make their way to one location, from all over Egypt in one day?
There is so much more wrong about the Exodus story.
And that is only one story in the Bible.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.