RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 16, 2017 at 9:37 am
(March 16, 2017 at 8:04 am)Stimbo Wrote: Asking if we'd believe this stuff if it could be shown to be true is a completely separate question to would we worship it. Sure we'd have no choice but to accept the evidence, but it's a whole other step to enchain one's life to it. It's rather like asking if I could prove to you that I can make a cake out of horseshit and dead flies, would you eat it?
Science is pointing away from the god of the gaps, but in the extremely remote chance it was proven, based on the reality we observe now, there is absolutely no way I would worship such a being. 10,000 years of religion and not one era in that time where there was no violence which we still see today. Childhood famine, childhood disease and rape and molestation. That aspect alone would not lead me to conclude such a being is all loving or moral.
Theists will falsely say that I am angry at this god, not at all. I view this claimed being like a character in a bad movie or horrible book. It is the logic of such claims that I object to. But if such a being were proven to be real, yes we would accept that reality, but that would not cause me to want to value or worship such a selective narcissistic self centered bully.
"If" we pretend that a future would bring such evidence, I would still want to kick this asshole in the nuts and tell him to fuck off. Imagine if a parent behaved in the same cherry picking selective deadbeat manor this alleged god character is depicted as. What if a parent has 4 kids, feeds one well, dotes on it, gives it care. But leaves another outside in the freezing cold. Leaves another with an abusive spouse who beats them daily. Leaves another with a child molester. If CPS discovers this the parent is arrested and the children are taken away.
I simply cannot buy theist logic of "all loving" and "all powerful" claiming there is a magical sky wizard security guard looking out for us, not when 50 to 60 million humans die on average every year worldwide, of all ages, from everything you can imagine. It isn't a real god I object to, but the logic of claiming such things.
