RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 16, 2017 at 2:27 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2017 at 2:32 pm by downbeatplumb.)
(March 16, 2017 at 9:37 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 15, 2017 at 6:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: When I was a theist, the most compelling argument I ever heard for atheism was, "Read the bible fully."
Personally, people who read the canon in order from start to finish are ill-advised. That may leave you with a basic biblical timeline, which is a good thing, but also leads to much confusion. The texts have to be read both forwards and backwards to draw out all the foreshadowing and typology. My favorite technique is finding a common phrase, consulting a concordance, and then comparing how it is used in each instance. The texts open up in unexpected ways to reveal hidden themes and allusions threading their way through the narrative. These threads tie the stories together just as Jesus said, "If you believed Moses then you would believe me..." (John 5:46) I find that approach more helpful than the typical topical approaches most bible study groups use. Those seem more like proof-texting clubs. I'd be happy to share videos of some study groups that take that approach, albeit from a Swedenborgian perspective, for anyone who is interested.
The bible is a "choose your own adventure" book.
You can justify/condemn anything using it by skipping to the parts you want.
(March 16, 2017 at 1:50 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(March 16, 2017 at 9:37 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Personally, people who read the canon in order from start to finish are ill-advised. That may leave you with a basic biblical timeline, which is a good thing, but also leads to much confusion. The texts have to be read both forwards and backwards to draw out all the foreshadowing and typology. My favorite technique is finding a common phrase, consulting a concordance, and then comparing how it is used in each instance. The texts open up in unexpected ways to reveal hidden themes and allusions threading their way through the narrative. These threads tie the stories together just as Jesus said, "If you believed Moses then you would believe me..." (John 5:46) I find that approach more helpful than the typical topical approaches most bible study groups use. Those seem more like proof-texting clubs. I'd be happy to share videos of some study groups that take that approach, albeit from a Swedenborgian perspective, for anyone who is interested.
Oh yeah so what did you figure out about the story when Abraham is supposed to kill his son? What special meaning and hidden messages did you find in that? Because from the viewpoint of modern morality, this disgraceful story, is an example of child abuse, something that Isaac could never recover from such psychological trauma.
Or what about when Jephthah actually killed his daughter to please JHVH? I mean how do you have to read the Bible to make sense of that story? Maybe hanging upside down so that blood fills your brain?
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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